How Many Games Should Vick Be Suspended?

[Chief X_Phackter]

We may know when he is going to trial quickly, but I don't think we'll know if he's going to be convicted until all the facts are heard in court...could be several months.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

If everything in the indictment is proven true and he is convicted, put me down for a lifetime ban. As for right now, I'm still not sure what my opinion is. I think a lot of people here have good arguments for and against suspending right now and/or going the leave of absence route. I will say this though, from everything I've heard about the conduct policy, Goodell certainly has the right to suspend right now. And given that I really have no use for Vick (and that I'm just a mean-spirited person), I can't say I'd shed a tear if he suspended him before the case is resolved.

[Riggo44]

I would say he should be suspended for the season. And if he plea bargains or is convicted then it should be for life with a chance at reinstatement after a few years. And that would only be if he gets counseling and stays out of trouble. These charges are pretty horrendous if you ask me.

[FRPLG]

To me whether he is guilty of the charges in the indictment is somewhat irrelevant. He is surely guilty of letting them run a dubious dog kennel from his property. There is no disputing that. Allowing this to happen on his property is dumb and irresponsible AT THE VERY BEST. It reflects very poorly on the league and in the end that is what amtters when the decisions about suspension matter. The legal system will hopefully take care of punishment. Fo the NFL this is about doing what is right for the league. Letting him stike around and cause continual bad press reflects poorly on the league. A suspension is in order.

[jsarno]

wow...I am shocked to see how many people say 0 games. At the very least it should be 4 games. I chose the season, and I hope permanantly.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by jsarno

wow...I am shocked to see how many people say 0 games. At the very least it should be 4 games. I chose the season, and I hope permanantly.

Vick to court next week, not camp - Yahoo! News
According to this article, Goodell and Blank seem poised to let him continue playing so long as he is able to with regard to court appointments until a verdict is issued once the judicial system has done it's thing. So looks like zero may not be far off, with what we know right now.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Vick to court next week, not camp - Yahoo! News
According to this article, Goodell and Blank seem poised to let him continue playing so long as he is able to with regard to court appointments until a verdict is issued once the judicial system has done it's thing. So looks like zero may not be far off, with what we know right now.

Yeah, but it says how many "should" he be suspended...not how many will he be.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Yeah, but it says how many "should" he be suspended...not how many will he be.

Well, "should" Goodell stick to that sentiment, then he "should" be suspended for zero games.

[RobH4413]

Doesn't the new NFL policy say that they don't have to be proven guilty yet to be suspended? Roger is going to drop the hammer because this has gotten so much publicity. Eight games at least.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Doesn't the new NFL policy say that they don't have to be proven guilty yet to be suspended? Roger is going to drop the hammer because this has gotten so much publicity. Eight games at least.

Yes it does but it also says something about repeat offenders which Vick is not. I said 0 days because he has not been found guilty of anything at this point. I do think he committed the crimes but until it goes to trial he still is cosidered innocent in the eye's of the law. If they did suspend him I think it would give the Falcons an easy out and what fun is that. I hope he shows up to training camp and plays this season because it will be fun to watch the media circus around the team, and the protesters that are bound to show up at some point.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Doesn't the new NFL policy say that they don't have to be proven guilty yet to be suspended? Roger is going to drop the hammer because this has gotten so much publicity. Eight games at least.

It also states that there needs to be an established pattern of disruptive behavior in order for a suspension without conviction to take place. This is Vick's first offense.

[redskinsfanatic]

he should have to sit out the whole damn season if he is found guilty,or takes a plea.pacman got suspended and he's only guilty now of keeping some pretty shitty company and doing stupid things.to be fair,the league should suspend him a season.since he is probably the most well known nfl player in the world,i doubt that happens!

[dallass-blows 2]

i said zero because he has not been found guilty. this reminds me of the duke lax case.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dallass-blows 2

i said zero because he has not been found guilty. this reminds me of the duke lax case.

With the exception of the media coverage, I don't see any similarities between the two.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by dallass-blows 2

i said zero because he has not been found guilty. this reminds me of the duke lax case.

This is nothing like the Duke case.

In the Duke case, they were being accused of something without any legitimate evidence and the prosecutor was trying to pump up his legal resume so he can win an election.

In this case, there is solid evidence that this DID happen on his property and many witnesses that say he was directly involved in it. Plus, this case involves killing living creatures. I've heard that if you see the property, there is NO doubt what went on there.