Brunell is starting Monday Night

Big C · 09-25-2004, 05:18 PM

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Bozzy · 09-25-2004, 05:23 PM

Ramsey still hasn't learned Gibbs' system yet. He's getting there.

Gmanc711 · 09-25-2004, 06:39 PM

I'm the biggest Ramsey fan, hes my favorite player, hell I named my dog after him. I think a healthy Brunell is still proboly more effective than Ramsey at this point. HOWEVER, I dont think there is any way Brunell is 100%. Seriously, a hamstring injury is not somthin to mess around with. If Brunell starts this game, hes going to be less efective than Ramsey if hes not healthy. In addition, if he's still feeling it, he's proboly gonna be out by halftime with the same damn injury.

Redskins_P · 09-25-2004, 06:50 PM

I am proud to say that I'm on the Ramsey bandwagon.....

MTK · 09-25-2004, 06:54 PM

I still think Brunell is going to be a good fit here, he just needs time to get into the flow of this offense.

I also think this talk of his arm being weak is really overblown. He still has plenty of arm to get the job done.

MTK · 09-25-2004, 08:26 PM

Right now it's a toss up as to who the better QB is IMO.

Both have made their share of mistakes in this offense thus far. However I do think that Gibbs is going to stick with Brunell mainly because of his experience.

If Ramsey had come in to the Giants game and not thrown 3 INT's, Gibbs might have something to think about right now.

Until Ramsey can cut down on the his mistakes, Gibbs is gonna stick with the vet.

I like both guys, I'll be rooting for whoever is behind center.

skins009 · 09-25-2004, 08:37 PM

This is the right move. I love Ramsey too, but he needs time to learn the offense. But I agree he might be getting some time on monday night.

Daseal · 09-25-2004, 09:50 PM

Is there a greater chance that Brunell will re-aggrivate his injury and make it worse in the long-run if he plays? All I know is the same injury sidelined vick for 3-4 weeks. Obviously Vick and Brunnell are a world apart, but still!

BrunellFan · 09-25-2004, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Is there a greater chance that Brunell will re-aggrivate his injury and make it worse in the long-run if he plays? All I know is the same injury sidelined vick for 3-4 weeks. Obviously Vick and Brunnell are a world apart, but still!

This same injury sidelined Vick for 4 weeks!??!

And Brunell is gonna play the very next week...

Brunell being in his mid-30's and Vick being in the 'prime' of his career?

Maybe Vick's the one who 'needs to take the diapers off'

That Guy · 09-26-2004, 12:06 AM

i think (from all the interviews with brunell i've read and seens this week), that he's honestly afraid of losing his job again... he got injured in jacksonville and never re-entered the line up, so he might be pressing here to make sure can stay on the field... (and he probably knows that his performances thus far haven't been very awe-inspiring or given the coaches a really obvious decision of who to start....)

I'd like to see him throw it deep and actually hit a receiver though... so far he hasn't been able to get it deep AND into someone's hands...

Daseal · 09-26-2004, 08:05 AM

Brunell turned it over twice and didn't drive us down the field after the initial drive. At least Ramsey created some sort of offense. We should have been running it in the red-zone anyways.

That Guy · 09-26-2004, 08:52 AM

i really kinda wanted to see ramsey play, and really i don't think either one was any better than the other against the giants... you said you don't get the starting spot with 3 ints, but brunell has had 2 fumbles returned for touchdowns and an int, yet he's starting

Hogskin · 09-26-2004, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

i really kinda wanted to see ramsey play, and really i don't think either one was any better than the other against the giants... you said you don't get the starting spot with 3 ints, but brunell has had 2 fumbles returned for touchdowns and an int, yet he's starting

Well, I'm not the one that said that (and I don't believe in a general statement like that), BUT...

Brunell has had one INT in 6 Q's, Ramsey 3 INT's in 2 Q's

Brunell has fumbled 3 times in 6 Q's, 2 for turnovers. Ramsey fumbled 2 times in 2 Q's, and was fortunate that neither resulted in a turnover. And the majority of all those 5 fumbles were caused by OL. On Brunell's fumble when he tried to hand off to Portis as he was falling because someone was standing on his foot, you could say he should have been smart and just taken the loss. But in many similar situations, when the RB DOES get the handle on the ball, the QB gets rave reviews for making the play, so it is hard to say he was totally wrong for trying (although, after the fact, I sure wish he had not)

In any case, those stats from such a short period of time should not solely determine a starter, but no matter how you do the math, that does not come out in Ramsey's favor, and it does not come out anywhere close to even.

SkinsRock · 09-26-2004, 10:37 AM

Gibbs has made Brunell the starter, and as long as he's healthy enough to play, he will. I think he also has confidence in Ramsey, but he is sticking with his decision....for now. If Ramsey hadn't thrown 3 picks and had won the game last week, who knows, but that's not what happened. That said, I still like Ramsey a lot and think he is the future for this team.

Gmanc711 · 09-26-2004, 10:36 AM

I think the bigger issue here is Brunell's health. There is NO WAY hes at 100%. He's putting himself at a huge risk giong out there on Monday night. I honestly wouldnt be shocked if hes outta the game by halftime.

09-25-2004, 05:18 PM	#1
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 39 Posts: 4,453	ye __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-25-2004, 05:23 PM	#2
Bozzy The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 45 Posts: 1,034	Ramsey still hasn't learned Gibbs' system yet. He's getting there.

09-25-2004, 06:39 PM	#3
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I'm the biggest Ramsey fan, hes my favorite player, hell I named my dog after him. I think a healthy Brunell is still proboly more effective than Ramsey at this point. HOWEVER, I dont think there is any way Brunell is 100%. Seriously, a hamstring injury is not somthin to mess around with. If Brunell starts this game, hes going to be less efective than Ramsey if hes not healthy. In addition, if he's still feeling it, he's proboly gonna be out by halftime with the same damn injury.

09-25-2004, 06:50 PM	#4
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	I am proud to say that I'm on the Ramsey bandwagon.....

09-25-2004, 06:54 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	I still think Brunell is going to be a good fit here, he just needs time to get into the flow of this offense. I also think this talk of his arm being weak is really overblown. He still has plenty of arm to get the job done.

09-25-2004, 08:26 PM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Right now it's a toss up as to who the better QB is IMO. Both have made their share of mistakes in this offense thus far. However I do think that Gibbs is going to stick with Brunell mainly because of his experience. If Ramsey had come in to the Giants game and not thrown 3 INT's, Gibbs might have something to think about right now. Until Ramsey can cut down on the his mistakes, Gibbs is gonna stick with the vet. I like both guys, I'll be rooting for whoever is behind center.

09-25-2004, 08:37 PM	#7
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	This is the right move. I love Ramsey too, but he needs time to learn the offense. But I agree he might be getting some time on monday night.

09-25-2004, 09:50 PM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Is there a greater chance that Brunell will re-aggrivate his injury and make it worse in the long-run if he plays? All I know is the same injury sidelined vick for 3-4 weeks. Obviously Vick and Brunnell are a world apart, but still!

09-26-2004, 12:06 AM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	i think (from all the interviews with brunell i've read and seens this week), that he's honestly afraid of losing his job again... he got injured in jacksonville and never re-entered the line up, so he might be pressing here to make sure can stay on the field... (and he probably knows that his performances thus far haven't been very awe-inspiring or given the coaches a really obvious decision of who to start....) I'd like to see him throw it deep and actually hit a receiver though... so far he hasn't been able to get it deep AND into someone's hands...

09-26-2004, 08:05 AM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Brunell turned it over twice and didn't drive us down the field after the initial drive. At least Ramsey created some sort of offense. We should have been running it in the red-zone anyways.

09-26-2004, 08:52 AM	#12
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	i really kinda wanted to see ramsey play, and really i don't think either one was any better than the other against the giants... you said you don't get the starting spot with 3 ints, but brunell has had 2 fumbles returned for touchdowns and an int, yet he's starting

09-26-2004, 10:37 AM	#14
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Gibbs has made Brunell the starter, and as long as he's healthy enough to play, he will. I think he also has confidence in Ramsey, but he is sticking with his decision....for now. If Ramsey hadn't thrown 3 picks and had won the game last week, who knows, but that's not what happened. That said, I still like Ramsey a lot and think he is the future for this team.

09-26-2004, 10:36 AM	#15
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I think the bigger issue here is Brunell's health. There is NO WAY hes at 100%. He's putting himself at a huge risk giong out there on Monday night. I honestly wouldnt be shocked if hes outta the game by halftime.

Brunell is starting Monday Night

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