Not To Be Negative...

[Defensewins]

My main concern is the offensive line. With two starters most likely gone for the year, depth is becoming a serious problem.
I am not sure I like Jason Fabini. He is on the downside of his career, plus a veteran like him should not be jumping offsides two or three times in a row near the goal line. He nearly cost us a TD if not for a great play by Campbell and Cooley.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

My main concern is the offensive line. With two starters most likely gone for the year, depth is becoming a serious problem.
I am not sure I like Jason Fabini. He is on the downside of his career, plus a veteran like him should not be jumping offsides two or three times in a row near the goal line. He nearly cost us a TD if not for a great play by Campbell and Cooley.

Has there been any word on Thomas? Is he out for the year?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Has there been any word on Thomas? Is he out for the year?

NO word yet, but torn bicep for an OL is not good. Hopefully it is a partial tear.

[Cowell]

I think our defensive backs played amazing. That being said I do think we need to work on getting in the quarterbacks face. Those 3 sacks we had were all coverage sacks. I think we need to work on Campbell's short to medium range and put a little touch on the passes. Then we need to work on getting to the outside when we run. We had a really hard time doing that all night.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

My main concern is the offensive line. With two starters most likely gone for the year, depth is becoming a serious problem.
I am not sure I like Jason Fabini. He is on the downside of his career, plus a veteran like him should not be jumping offsides two or three times in a row near the goal line. He nearly cost us a TD if not for a great play by Campbell and Cooley.

OMG, Fabini was in another world, another game, or somewhere other than where he should have been. What the hell was up with so many repeat false-starts? Then, our coaches blew the clock management during this same drive. Where were we, on the two yard line or something? Those miscues almost killed that drive entirely. Of all the negatives, those there were the winners (or losers). I thought Gibbs and Co. got past those issues a couple of years ago.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

OMG, Fabini was in another world, another game, or somewhere other than where he should have been. What the hell was up with so many repeat false-starts? Then, our coaches blew the clock management during this same drive. Where were we, on the two yard line or something? Those miscues almost killed that drive entirely. Of all the negatives, those there were the winners (or losers). I thought Gibbs and Co. got past those issues a couple of years ago.

That clock management wasn't on us. The officials stopped the clock briefly which made our guys think the play clock was also reset. We got screwed. Lucky to come away with a td on that one.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

That clock management wasn't on us. The officials stopped the clock briefly which made our guys think the play clock was also reset. We got screwed. Lucky to come away with a td on that one.

Thanks for the clarification BB, I must have been swilling too much of my favorite adult bevarage!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

OMG, Fabini was in another world, another game, or somewhere other than where he should have been. What the hell was up with so many repeat false-starts? Then, our coaches blew the clock management during this same drive. Where were we, on the two yard line or something? Those miscues almost killed that drive entirely. Of all the negatives, those there were the winners (or losers). I thought Gibbs and Co. got past those issues a couple of years ago.

According to JC the headsets went out so that had something to do with it. I was screaming at the TV to just kick it cause we were too retarded to run a damn play. Shows how much I know!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

OMG, Fabini was in another world, another game, or somewhere other than where he should have been. What the hell was up with so many repeat false-starts? Then, our coaches blew the clock management during this same drive. Where were we, on the two yard line or something? Those miscues almost killed that drive entirely. Of all the negatives, those there were the winners (or losers). I thought Gibbs and Co. got past those issues a couple of years ago.

I'll give Fabini a pass for now.

Not exactly the easiest circumstances to see your first action of the season on MNF in front of a rowdy crowd. He'll settle down I'm sure.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'll give Fabini a pass for now.

Not exactly the easiest circumstances to see your first action of the season on MNF in front of a rowdy crowd. He'll settle down I'm sure.

Fabini was:

• Playing a position he doesn't play
• Playing on a side of the line he hasn't played in eight years
• Initially playing on special teams, which makes hearing a snap count even harder
• In front of a loud and hostile crowd
• Drawn off on his second penalty

Also he:

• Gave up no sacks
• Run blocked well
• Didn't cost us any points

I'm OK with last night.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

Fabini was:

• Playing a position he doesn't play
  reply: But you still start at the same snap count regardless of your position.
• Playing on a side of the line he hasn't played in eight years
  reply: See above
• Initially playing on special teams, which makes hearing a snap count even harder
  reply: He has 10-yrs. experience as an O-lineman. Hearing snap counts is part of his resume'.
• In front of a loud and hostile crowd
  reply: See above.
• Drawn off on his second penalty
  reply: True, he gets a pass on that one.

Also he:

• Gave up no sacks
• Run blocked well
• Didn't cost us any points
  reply: He could have given that we lost the advantage of being a couple of yards from the end-zone partially due to his mistakes.

I'm OK with last night.

Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful we have Fabini. I just believe that he could have done a better job even though he was under pressure. Pete Kendall hasn't been here long and he didn't jump off-sides.

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

My main concern is the offensive line. With two starters most likely gone for the year, depth is becoming a serious problem.
I am not sure I like Jason Fabini. He is on the downside of his career, plus a veteran like him should not be jumping offsides two or three times in a row near the goal line. He nearly cost us a TD if not for a great play by Campbell and Cooley.

agreed, very nervous about the O-line minus Thomas...
As for the game...Turnovers! I don't know how much more success we can expect when we're losing the turnover battle. While our D has been very bend not break - a major improvement- we still aren't creating any turnovers. WE also need to score more...

As for catching, santana looked much better yesterday than against the 'fins...cooley will be fine.

I'll tell you, I almost lost myself at the end of the first half...we continue to have the worst clock management in the NFL. (while i'm aware the headset wasn't working, i don't think that explains the past few years....very frustrating)

OVerall: many more positives than negatives. campbell showed great potential. the running game began to work better in the 2nd half. Bottom line, we won.

[Yellow31]

1. Agreed, at least 3 drops if not more that were in the hands of the receivers, I counted 1 cooley, 1 moss, 1 yoder
2. On 2 of those short routes he had a d-lineman in his face and had to throw around him, if not ball would have been batted and no play at least he is giving the receivers an opportunity to get the ball and he is hitting the hot receiver with a blitz coming......but still needs work or better blocking but can't complain about that with all the injuries will still take time to jell in the new guys.
3. QB pressure, if I recall from last year, we weren't even getting close. last year sack TOTAL for the year-19, this year already 5.....doing better but still could use some improvement, I think carter is on the verge of a BIG year, he didn't have any last night but was VERRRY close on several plays
4. Tackling.....AGREED, but it seemed like it was only on Westbrook, who is pretty freaking GOOD, but still gotta make the first tackle or slow him up more for somebody to finish him off!
5. Positives, WOW how about the rookie coming up HUGE on the biggest play of the game!

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Last night was great and it feels good to be 2-0. That said, there were some things that we really need to improve on if we're going to have a chance at the division this year.

My list:

1. Hands. We've got to catch the ball. Cooley and Moss both had a few drops in addition to their great receptions last night. I'd love to see Carlos Rogers get a few practice reps catching the ball. He puts himself in great position but just can't make the catch. That's huge.

2. Jason Campbell's short-medium range accuracy. Seems like he has a tendency to fire the ball a little high and outside on the shorter routes. That could very easily cost us some points if corners start jumping the routes.

3. QB pressure. We got close ALOT last night, but didn't get as many sacks as we could've out of it. Some will probably say that McNabb is a mobile qb and that's why he was able to elude the pressure. I disagree. Last night, McNabb was not all that fluid and wasn't pulling away from anyone. I think our dline just has to adjust their technique a little bit to turn pressures into sacks.

What did you see?

[hail_2_da_skins]

Granted the Redskins made a few mistakes last night, but what was most impressive is that they adapted and overcame the mistakes and won the game. Campbell is no Carson Palmer or Tom Brady or Payton Manning. He is a young developing quarterback that is making more positive plays than negative plays. I see improvement with each start. Give the kid a break. He is doing things that Mark Brunnel can only dream about.

[SmootSmack]

I'd almost rather have Pucillo starting at RG, but Fabini is fine for now I suppose