Defensive line still a major issue

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I'm sorry but Andre Carter needs to learn a few moves. I'm not complaining about out DLine except for him and he has still played pretty good. I just think that speed rush to the outside ten yards past the quarterback is useless. Try a drop step or cutback.

yeah 100% agree with ya here. Andre seems to do the speed rush to the outside everytime which allows the LT to just ride him farther outside the whole time. If he mixed it up alil more I think he could really catch some guys napping. But atleast we have a DE with speed to do that and AC's motor seems to always be going 110% every snap. Go skins!!

I dont think daniels is done. he holds his ground well against the O-line, hope he comes back soon.

I thought m. washington was going to be our blitz guy this year, havent seen it yet.

[70Chip]

The defensive line played great against the Eagles. The goal with McNabb is to try to keep him in the pocket. This means that pass-rushers cannot go all out to try to get to him because they have to be concerned with maintaining their contain. Andre Carter, for instance, can't really try to speed around the Tackle because that would leave a big lane for McNabb to run through. He has to try and be consious of McNabb the runner. Having said that, I think we did sck him twice if I'm not mistaken. Maybe more.

The bottom line is you want McNabb to be a pocket passer. That's your best chance to win.

[Warrior1971]

Well all I have to say is, we are winning, the Defense is ranked #16th after week 2, ranked #9th against the run, so our Defensive line is doing a good job in that aspect. Anyone that knows a Greg Williams Defense knows he uses Defensive Line to stop the run and adds QB pressure with LB's and Defensive Backs. SO far I am happy with the Defensive play, even though I feel we should be playing better against the pass. But I feel we will get better in that area as the season progresses.

Hail to the Redskins!!!!!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by chrisl4064

donovan had all day unless we were sending blitzing. i was pissed the entire game at that. every time there was a sack or any pressure at all i would see landry or rocky or washington in there. same thing with the dolphins game. i honestly think this may hurt us in the long run. i mean seriously was anyone else not screaming at the TV when Donovan would drop back and just casually look around for an open guy? good thing he sucks and our corners stepped up this week.

i know its too late to do anything about now, but we have to fix this in the offseason. and what the hell kind of tackle was that when evans hit westbrook before he took off for a 30 yard gain, disgusting.

I am right there with you. The only sacks we got were because our coverage in the secondary was outstanding. No sacks were generated from a pure rush...that is a huge concern and needs to be addressed next year.

[MTK]

Major issue??

I guess we already forget about last year. That defensive line was a major issue.

[That Guy]

DL still sucks. safeties - maybe the best depth in the league (4 starters), CB - 4 starters and what looks like a quality reserve. LBs - 4 starters and a young guy (blades). DL - 1 and three .5 starters with a decent 3rd DT... some minor age issues there too.

I mean, Griffin is good when healthy, but the rest of the DL is average at best, and that might be being nice. I like evans and the two young guys as depth, but we're missing an A1 DE right now.

I mean, we'll be around the 14th best D this year at this rate, and that's pretty good, but an aaron kampman/jason taylor or some such could really help (monster tackler/sack guy).

[Rock Your Face]

I too would like to see more pressure from the front 4, but they are much better this year at stopping the run. Getting pressure from the front 4 is important against all teams, but against the Giants and Lions coming up, it will be especially so.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by chrisl4064

donovan had all day unless we were sending blitzing. i was pissed the entire game at that. every time there was a sack or any pressure at all i would see landry or rocky or washington in there. same thing with the dolphins game. i honestly think this may hurt us in the long run. i mean seriously was anyone else not screaming at the TV when Donovan would drop back and just casually look around for an open guy? good thing he sucks and our corners stepped up this week.

i know its too late to do anything about now, but we have to fix this in the offseason. and what the hell kind of tackle was that when evans hit westbrook before he took off for a 30 yard gain, disgusting.

Whoa, disgusting? Probably time for you to get off the warpath with that kind of negative reaction to, what by any measure, was a great Redskin WIN! And you were watching a different game when you say that the front four did not change how McNabb was playing the game. Did you even see the throws he missed? Do you think he misses those throws if there's no pressure?

You might want to find something better to scream at your TV about...

And to pick a single missed play by a second string defensive end on one of the shiftiest and best runners in the game is ludicrous. Just sit back, think about the game and tell us that this was not an outstanding defensive effort by a TEAM. Isn't 12 points evidence enough?

We would all like to bring in the next DL stud when he becomes available. But remember that there's a 53 man roster, and cap money (and affordable talent) is in limited supply. So far, the choice the Redskins made to stand pat with the DL is just fine with me. Can we improve? Sure! But tell me what team can't...

Time to adjust your attitude and let's hear some positive vibes from you if you want to call yourself a true Redskins fan.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

Whoa, disgusting? Probably time for you to get off the warpath with that kind of negative reaction to, what by any measure, was a great Redskin WIN! And you were watching a different game when you say that the front four did not change how McNabb was playing the game. Did you even see the throws he missed? Do you think he misses those throws if there's no pressure?

You might want to find something better to scream at your TV about...

And to pick a single missed play by a second string defensive end on one of the shiftiest and best runners in the game is ludicrous. Just sit back, think about the game and tell us that this was not an outstanding defensive effort by a TEAM. Isn't 12 points evidence enough?

We would all like to bring in the next DL stud when he becomes available. But remember that there's a 53 man roster, and cap money (and affordable talent) is in limited supply. So far, the choice the Redskins made to stand pat with the DL is just fine with me. Can we improve? Sure! But tell me what team can't...

Time to adjust your attitude and let's hear some positive vibes from you if you want to call yourself a true Redskins fan.

Very well put. Why is it that some fans are never happy? Always gotta bitch about something. We are 2-0 and I'm happy as hell!

[GusFrerotte]

I think our D line did OK on MNF, didn't nail McNabb as much as they should have, but they did have somewhat of a rush going, just didn't get a hold of him. Someone in the game chat was right though, at times the linemen looked lethargic in their pursuit of Donovan. We should have had 6 sacks just due to the coverage. I like how Carter did get a sack, but the other guys need to get in on the action.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by chrisl4064

donovan had all day unless we were sending blitzing. i was pissed the entire game at that. every time there was a sack or any pressure at all i would see landry or rocky or washington in there. same thing with the dolphins game. i honestly think this may hurt us in the long run. i mean seriously was anyone else not screaming at the TV when Donovan would drop back and just casually look around for an open guy? good thing he sucks and our corners stepped up this week.

i know its too late to do anything about now, but we have to fix this in the offseason. and what the hell kind of tackle was that when evans hit westbrook before he took off for a 30 yard gain, disgusting.

Are you surprised or something? You knew going in we needed DE help. At least we are not getting gashed on the run like last year. It looks like Montgomery, Goldston and Griff are holding down the middle pretty well. You can't fix everything in one year. We are 2-0. Be happy instead of finding the negative.

[holcknowsbest]

85 bears, 2000 ravens.......dude the list goes on, nobody just rushed 4 and got it done. i think its easy to see that getting to quarterback is so much more than just the front 4, front 7 might be a better argument. but with the safeties and corner blitzes having become more popular, i would argue that getting to the quarter back is about blitzing not just a straight front 4 pass rush.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

This year is the year of defensive ends in the draft. We will have a surplus to choose from there, and that is where we will get our defensive end from.

[freddyg12]

Let's hope Wilson improves as the season goes along. He's only going to be a pass rush specialist this year anyway.

I saw him make a few good moves but not enough to beat his man. He will be getting some more playing time in the coming weeks.

[T.O.Killa]

I am exstatic with what our defense has done. We are on pace to do 40 sacks. That is a huge improvement. Andre carter was putting pressure on all night. McIntosh's sack was realy Andre carter forcing him into his arms. I am more worried about our corners holding up than anything. If they hold up we will have a great defense.