Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job??

Sean Taylor · 10-22-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

It's funny that people have such a short memory around here. Does no one remember that up until Washington signed John Hall, they changed kickers once or twice every season. They lost several games in that stretch because of missed field goals.

What's the point of bringing in competition? They'll bring in someone who'll look solid on the practice field, and be hot for a week or two, then fall off like every other kicker that's signed in the middle of the season, and it'll be back to the drawing board in the offseason. Suisham is 70% on the season. That's not great, but it's servicable. He may just be in a rut, like 90% of the kickers in the league suffer at some point in time. If he misses a few more critical kicks, then by all means, hit the panic button.

I was hitting the panic button yesterday when he missed that chip shot up 14-6. No excuse for that. Ball missed by 20 yards EAST!!!

Tha Posse · 10-22-2007, 01:35 PM

On a serious note where is John Hall??? He is still good if he's healthy

mlmpetert · 10-22-2007, 12:17 PM

kicker Rob Bironas proved to be a "loss prevention" specialist.

The former Best Buy security guard opened the scoring with a 52-yard field goal, ended the contest with a 29-yarder and converted six others in between during a thrilling 38-36 victory. Bironas, a former Arena League performer (AF2, too) who participated in training camps for three NFL franchises before finally making the Titans in 2005, became the first kicker in NFL history to kick eight field goals in one contest.

Is this the same guy that kicked a 63 yarder to beat the Colts last year and tie the record?

freddyg12 · 10-22-2007, 12:24 PM

Suisham is decent. Hasn't looked great or terrible, he's about what you expect.

I'd like to stick w/him. Contrary to the tuna & some other coaches, I believe continuity in the kicking game is crucial. Sure he's missed a few that were makeable, but he's had good games too. Remember that he nailed the game winner v. Miami from 40. I thought that was a good omen for his season. he's a little off now, but I think he'll get back on track.

firstdown · 10-22-2007, 02:22 PM

I'm going to write him and ask that next time he misses a FG to go to the sidelines and throw his helmet and knock over the drink table.

irish · 10-22-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm going to write him and ask that next time he misses a FG to go to the sidelines and throw his helmet and knock over the drink table.

Good idea, then Earthquake would know he was pissed that he missed a FG.

BDBohnzie · 10-22-2007, 02:33 PM

Or pick a fight with Carlos Rog...oh wait, Neil Rackers already did that

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2007, 01:00 PM

Anybody else take notice of his tackle on that kick return? He's a little dude but came flying down the field and made a nice tackle. I couldn't believe the announcers ignored it.

BDBohnzie · 11-20-2007, 01:10 PM

They didn't ignore it. They pointed it out and showed a replay of him making a huge tackle...then noticed he was limping around on the sideline.

What a difference a month makes...at this time last month, he missed a kick, and people were calling for his head. Since then, he's 10-11, with the only miss coming on Sunday from 49.

DiehardSkin88 · 11-20-2007, 01:33 PM

He is 14 for 17 in FG's, 82%. He is 100% in kicking field goals from 20-29 yards and 80% from 30-39 and 75% from 40-49. He's having a pretty good season, definately better then what we're usually used to seein from the Redskins kicking game. He is struggling in one part of his game though, and that is kick offs... He is almost last in kickoff yardage and average yardage.

SouperMeister · 11-20-2007, 01:49 PM

Suisham was obviously perfect on FGs in the Jets game when we needed every last kick, but my big complaint is his inconsistent kickoffs. It was a pathetically short kickoff that led to Leon Washington's opening TD return that game. Even against Dallas, some of his kicks failed to get much inside the 10 yard line. We really need a guy who can consistently put it around the goal line. I saw Sam Swank of Wake Forest earlier this year - that kid has a rocket for a leg. I wouldn't mind bringing in a guy like that for a little competition.

firstdown · 11-20-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Suisham was obviously perfect on FGs in the Jets game when we needed every last kick, but my big complaint is his inconsistent kickoffs. It was a pathetically short kickoff that led to Leon Washington's opening TD return that game. Even against Dallas, some of his kicks failed to get much inside the 10 yard line. We really need a guy who can consistently put it around the goal line. I saw Sam Swank of Wake Forest earlier this year - that kid has a rocket for a leg. I wouldn't mind bringing in a guy like that for a little competition.

The short kick off was not the problem with that TD it was the players not staying in their lane and over persuing. His short kickoffs mean a shorter field and more yards gained but should not be the reason one is returned.

BleedBurgundy · 11-20-2007, 01:53 PM

He's definitely not a big leg. But he's consistent from the range that you would expect a field goal to be made, which is good since you know what you can count on. That's another reason I was surprised we went for the 50 yarder against dallas.

squrrelco3 · 11-20-2007, 04:04 PM

Hard to argue with 5 field goals in one game...as far as him getting upset after a missed Field Goal, I agree with irish, a good kicker is like a good closer in baseball, they stay in their shoes and throw every pitch or attempt every kick like they've done it a hundred times before...

His FG% is above Vinatieri and Elam, and for those that think he's a never will be, the same thing was said about Shayne Graham when Cincinnati picked him up after he was waived by three other teams...

Shazzam will be fine, he's only 25 and this is only his 3rd season...hell he's practically a rookie.

Campbell17 · 11-20-2007, 06:46 PM

he misses big game FG's, vs Giants, Dallas, Philly

10-22-2007, 01:35 PM	#2
Tha Posse Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hagerstown, MD Age: 43 Posts: 241	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? On a serious note where is John Hall??? He is still good if he's healthy

10-22-2007, 12:17 PM	#3
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,261	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? kicker Rob Bironas proved to be a "loss prevention" specialist. The former Best Buy security guard opened the scoring with a 52-yard field goal, ended the contest with a 29-yarder and converted six others in between during a thrilling 38-36 victory. Bironas, a former Arena League performer (AF2, too) who participated in training camps for three NFL franchises before finally making the Titans in 2005, became the first kicker in NFL history to kick eight field goals in one contest. Is this the same guy that kicked a 63 yarder to beat the Colts last year and tie the record?

10-22-2007, 12:24 PM	#4
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? Suisham is decent. Hasn't looked great or terrible, he's about what you expect. I'd like to stick w/him. Contrary to the tuna & some other coaches, I believe continuity in the kicking game is crucial. Sure he's missed a few that were makeable, but he's had good games too. Remember that he nailed the game winner v. Miami from 40. I thought that was a good omen for his season. he's a little off now, but I think he'll get back on track.

10-22-2007, 02:22 PM	#5
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? I'm going to write him and ask that next time he misses a FG to go to the sidelines and throw his helmet and knock over the drink table.

10-22-2007, 02:33 PM	#7
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 46 Posts: 4,628	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? Or pick a fight with Carlos Rog...oh wait, Neil Rackers already did that __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

11-20-2007, 01:00 PM	#8
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? Anybody else take notice of his tackle on that kick return? He's a little dude but came flying down the field and made a nice tackle. I couldn't believe the announcers ignored it. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

11-20-2007, 01:10 PM	#9
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 46 Posts: 4,628	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? They didn't ignore it. They pointed it out and showed a replay of him making a huge tackle...then noticed he was limping around on the sideline. What a difference a month makes...at this time last month, he missed a kick, and people were calling for his head. Since then, he's 10-11, with the only miss coming on Sunday from 49. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

11-20-2007, 01:33 PM	#10
DiehardSkin88 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 162	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? He is 14 for 17 in FG's, 82%. He is 100% in kicking field goals from 20-29 yards and 80% from 30-39 and 75% from 40-49. He's having a pretty good season, definately better then what we're usually used to seein from the Redskins kicking game. He is struggling in one part of his game though, and that is kick offs... He is almost last in kickoff yardage and average yardage.

11-20-2007, 01:49 PM	#11
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? Suisham was obviously perfect on FGs in the Jets game when we needed every last kick, but my big complaint is his inconsistent kickoffs. It was a pathetically short kickoff that led to Leon Washington's opening TD return that game. Even against Dallas, some of his kicks failed to get much inside the 10 yard line. We really need a guy who can consistently put it around the goal line. I saw Sam Swank of Wake Forest earlier this year - that kid has a rocket for a leg. I wouldn't mind bringing in a guy like that for a little competition.

11-20-2007, 01:53 PM	#13
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? He's definitely not a big leg. But he's consistent from the range that you would expect a field goal to be made, which is good since you know what you can count on. That's another reason I was surprised we went for the 50 yarder against dallas. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

11-20-2007, 04:04 PM	#14
squrrelco3 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Norfolk Age: 50 Posts: 429	Re: Is Our Kicker Doing A Good Job?? Hard to argue with 5 field goals in one game...as far as him getting upset after a missed Field Goal, I agree with irish, a good kicker is like a good closer in baseball, they stay in their shoes and throw every pitch or attempt every kick like they've done it a hundred times before... His FG% is above Vinatieri and Elam, and for those that think he's a never will be, the same thing was said about Shayne Graham when Cincinnati picked him up after he was waived by three other teams... Shazzam will be fine, he's only 25 and this is only his 3rd season...hell he's practically a rookie. __________________ I got nothin'

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