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illdefined · 10-05-2004, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

The way I see it - this team could very easily be 4-0. I'm sure most would agree with me. That's not to say that I think this team is elite, but I do think they are solid. Unfortunately with parity in the NFL, there are about 24 other teams in the same boat as the Skins.

When you are at this level your W-L will be ultimately be decided by how you do the "little things", and right now the Skins could not be worse in that department.

I really think if we can eliminate the turnovers and manage the clock a little better this team can go on a run and make the playoffs. But time is running out.

totally agree with you vs. the Giants and the Girls, but man, the Browns. they are bad and hurt, and our offense had no better defense to go up against and hone and gain some confidence. now we're going into Bmore's defense, and while i know we have the talent and the plays to win, im not sure we have the confidence or the juju. and if we lose ONE more game, even if its close, it will REALLY take a toll on the players and they wont truly WANT to execute. we need to show improvement N O W. get to the bye with some optimism.

MTK · 10-05-2004, 06:10 PM

I agree CC, this team could easily be 4-0.

Turnovers have absolutely killed them (and a few bad calls against Dallas).

CrazyCanuck · 10-05-2004, 06:36 PM

Ya I tried not to blame the penalties but that Dallas game was a joke. In our home park no less!

PS - To the NFL - please don't fine a guy (Roy Williams) if you're not gonna throw the flag when it counts!

CrazyCanuck · 10-05-2004, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Ya I tried not to blame the penalties but that Dallas game was a joke. In our home park no less!

What I meant to say was "I tried not to blame the REFS but that Dallas game was A JOKE."

That Guy · 10-05-2004, 09:40 PM

SC, you forgot jimoh and our new superstar, ryan clark.... how dare you.

MTK · 10-05-2004, 09:42 PM

SC with a classic post

Daseal · 10-05-2004, 09:46 PM

The over-inflation of these posts is incrediable. I don't think giving Ramsey a chance is too much of a stretch or a reasonable thing to try. I don't think Portis should be benched, nor do I think Coles should sit down unless he has a real medical problem that needs either rest or surgery. That doesn't mean that there aren't problems about the Redskins.

Let's all act like Matty. Hey guys, we're 4-0, playing flawless football. Superbowl here we come!

SmootSmack · 10-05-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Let's all act like Matty. Hey guys, we're 4-0, playing flawless football. Superbowl here we come!

This reeks of sarcasm. Matty, I think this is a dig at you. Are you going to impose the infamous "Warpath Smart-A** Sanctions" on Daseal?

MTK · 10-05-2004, 10:14 PM

Daseal, I'm well aware that the Redskins have their share of problems right now.

I guess I'm just staying a bit more patient than others. But I haven't held back in handing out criticism of the team, I've said Portis isn't getting it done, Gardner is inconsistent, Ramsey isn't ready, Brunell isn't playing great, there have been gaffes in playcalling and time mgmt, etc.

I'm just saying let's try to stay level-headed about things. Cutting guys, benching them, firing people, etc., I mean c'mon, even Dan Snyder isn't this impatient or crazy.

Gmanc711 · 10-05-2004, 11:14 PM

I'll stick up for Dasel. I completley have trust and faith that Gibbs will turn things around eventually. However, I am filled with a little skeptisim as well. It just feels like our season thusfar is just another carosel of " here we go again ... " where we always seem to be right on the brink, but fight ourselves out of contention. In Gibbs I trust, but I defintley feel and understand Dasel.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-05-2004, 11:16 PM

As do I (stick up for D)

Daseal · 10-05-2004, 11:22 PM

I vaguely remember part of Gibbs teams. I remember winning the Super Bowl pool when I was in elementary school and making a lot of 30-40 year old men very upset, as upset as they could be after a skins super bowl win!

I don't think anyone's running for cover exactly, and I certainly don't think benching our talented players is the way to turn things around. Besides a change in QB I have no other gripe about the personel. I also think Gibbs will turn it around, but I think it's only fair to criticize him on hiss mistakes thus far.

One thing we must remember. No matter how much we criticize Gibbs, it doesn't matter. He's his own toughest critic.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-06-2004, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

I vaguely remember part of Gibbs teams. I remember winning the Super Bowl pool when I was in elementary school and making a lot of 30-40 year old men very upset, as upset as they could be after a skins super bowl win!

I don't think anyone's running for cover exactly, and I certainly don't think benching our talented players is the way to turn things around. Besides a change in QB I have no other gripe about the personel. I also think Gibbs will turn it around, but I think it's only fair to criticize him on hiss mistakes thus far.

One thing we must remember. No matter how much we criticize Gibbs, it doesn't matter. He's his own toughest critic.

Couldn't agree more D.

SkinsRock · 10-06-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

One thing we must remember. No matter how much we criticize Gibbs, it doesn't matter. He's his own toughest critic.

And THAT is why we need to stay patient....as frustrating as it can be right now!

Daseal · 10-06-2004, 06:44 PM

I don't think many people are calling for mutiny, but you must remember how easy it is to lose players in today's NFL. He needs to get something going quick for more than just the fan.

Things will straighten up, but if we don't get some W's soon it may be without some people we see as corner-stones of the franchise.

10-05-2004, 11:14 PM	#10
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I'll stick up for Dasel. I completley have trust and faith that Gibbs will turn things around eventually. However, I am filled with a little skeptisim as well. It just feels like our season thusfar is just another carosel of " here we go again ... " where we always seem to be right on the brink, but fight ourselves out of contention. In Gibbs I trust, but I defintley feel and understand Dasel. __________________ #21

10-05-2004, 06:10 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	I agree CC, this team could easily be 4-0. Turnovers have absolutely killed them (and a few bad calls against Dallas).

10-05-2004, 06:36 PM	#3
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Ya I tried not to blame the penalties but that Dallas game was a joke. In our home park no less! PS - To the NFL - please don't fine a guy (Roy Williams) if you're not gonna throw the flag when it counts!

10-05-2004, 09:40 PM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	SC, you forgot jimoh and our new superstar, ryan clark.... how dare you.

10-05-2004, 09:42 PM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	SC with a classic post

10-05-2004, 09:46 PM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	The over-inflation of these posts is incrediable. I don't think giving Ramsey a chance is too much of a stretch or a reasonable thing to try. I don't think Portis should be benched, nor do I think Coles should sit down unless he has a real medical problem that needs either rest or surgery. That doesn't mean that there aren't problems about the Redskins. Let's all act like Matty. Hey guys, we're 4-0, playing flawless football. Superbowl here we come!

10-05-2004, 10:14 PM	#9
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Daseal, I'm well aware that the Redskins have their share of problems right now. I guess I'm just staying a bit more patient than others. But I haven't held back in handing out criticism of the team, I've said Portis isn't getting it done, Gardner is inconsistent, Ramsey isn't ready, Brunell isn't playing great, there have been gaffes in playcalling and time mgmt, etc. I'm just saying let's try to stay level-headed about things. Cutting guys, benching them, firing people, etc., I mean c'mon, even Dan Snyder isn't this impatient or crazy.

10-05-2004, 11:16 PM	#11
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	As do I (stick up for D)

10-05-2004, 11:22 PM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	I vaguely remember part of Gibbs teams. I remember winning the Super Bowl pool when I was in elementary school and making a lot of 30-40 year old men very upset, as upset as they could be after a skins super bowl win! I don't think anyone's running for cover exactly, and I certainly don't think benching our talented players is the way to turn things around. Besides a change in QB I have no other gripe about the personel. I also think Gibbs will turn it around, but I think it's only fair to criticize him on hiss mistakes thus far. One thing we must remember. No matter how much we criticize Gibbs, it doesn't matter. He's his own toughest critic.

10-06-2004, 06:44 PM	#15
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	I don't think many people are calling for mutiny, but you must remember how easy it is to lose players in today's NFL. He needs to get something going quick for more than just the fan. Things will straighten up, but if we don't get some W's soon it may be without some people we see as corner-stones of the franchise.

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