Should We Be As Happy With This Win

htownskinfan · 11-04-2007, 11:11 PM

I posted this in another thread but I'm going to post it here too,
we were lucky to escape with the win,kudo's to the off line and suisham,looks like he got his hook fixed,a lot of people didnt think he would be able to make a game winning kick,especially from that distance,i had my doubts also going into the game but after the way he was kicking prior to o.t. I had confidence in him for the last kick.
Still very unimpressed with offense and playcalling,my main problem with it being so unimaginative,remember all the presnap motion Gibbs used to do? but my main problem isnt about that,its what we do when we run the play.We rarley use the shotgun,when we do pass its usually straight 7 yrd drop back passes with no play action pass,theres no deception on off to try and confuse the def.I noticed last week against N.E.,and this week against the jets,who looked like they might have used some of N.E.'s plays,their off's used misdirection,fake handoffs and fake reverses,a lot of different looks that confused our def and kept us off balance,I see none of that in our off except for once or twice a game.One of our best plays today was Jason dropping back to pass and faking the throw and then the delayed handoff to portis for a good gain,that was a great call but theres not enough of that kind of playcalling.Today we were able to win because the off line came together and opened some holes,if they wouldnt have the outcry on hear would be so bad you wouldnt be able to stand it. I wouldnt be as concerned with the playcalling as far as run pass ratio if i saw some imagination with the plays instead of straight handoffs and straight dropback passing

VTSkins897 · 11-04-2007, 11:44 PM

great win today. i thought it was done after that long pass by the jets in OT. i would like to see JC hit some of his big throws. they tout him for throwing a great deep ball but i just haven't seen it yet.

still, ill take the W and am planning to take the rest of the season one game at a time.

JWsleep · 11-04-2007, 11:56 PM

Of COURSE we should be happy--we we're down 17 to 3, to the JETS!!!

Pluses: The run game--we're going to need it, though it won't be this easy down the road. Shuish--very clutch. Landry (but for the one bone-head play, though he was flying there, even). Onside kick. Portis--he matters for this team, whatever the detractors say. And Betts looked good as well.

Minuses: Specials TD on the first friggin play of the game. Weak passing attack, though every now and they you saw flashes. D gave up lots of yards, and lots of 3rd downs. Some weak penalties.

Remember, we got creamed last week--that can linger. Plus, this was a trap game in lots of ways--after the Pats, before the Eagles, and with the Jets really being better than their record shows. I watched them lose to the Ravens, and thought they looked pretty much like we saw today.

Bottom line: had to have it, and we got it. Now things get tougher.

Meks · 11-05-2007, 12:01 AM

happy with the win, but i hated that last run call before we punted to let them get the tying field goal.... thats why we lost the games we lost wit the exception of N.E...... situations like that can easily make or break a game

JWsleep · 11-05-2007, 12:08 AM

Agree about the that call in the 4th, Meks--gotta convert there. We have had toruble with that all year. Why not throw to Cooley? Worked much of the day. Gotta trust JC a bit more there.

But I can see their thinking with the day we were having in the run game. But whatever--find a way to convert!!!!!

billyharless · 11-05-2007, 06:16 AM

Yes, the Jets are a better team than their record shows. I am glad Coles was not playing. I am happy to be 5-3 for the first 8 games.

If we can split with the Cowgirls and beat the Eagles and Giants then we have a great chance to finish 10-6 or better.

dmek25 · 11-05-2007, 06:37 AM

not to beat a dead horse, but... i personally dont care what it looks like. ill take any win. and more then likely, 10 wins gets the skins in. if the skins win when the should, they will be in. all they need is 5 more ugly wins

billyharless · 11-05-2007, 07:27 AM

The rest of the season is very important now:

Eagles.......(3-5) - Must win for Skins.....6-3 (NFC-E)
Cowgirls.....(7-1) - Likely Loss for Skins...6-4 (NFC-E)
Bucs..........(5-4) - Must win for Skins.....7-4 (NFC)
Bills...........(4-4) - Must win for Skins.....8-4 (AFC)
Bears.........(3-5) - Must win for Skins.....9-4 (NFC)
Giants........(6-2) - Must win for Skins....10-4 (NFC-E)
Vikings.......(3-5) - Must win for Skins....11-4 (NFC)
Cowgirls.....(7-1) - Must win for Skins.....12-4 (NFC-E)

The Cowgirls have to get by the Packers, Giants and Skins. Hope for 3 loses there that would tie us 12-4

Hope that Detroit and NE beat the Giants. Then it is our job to make sure we beat the Giants to give them an 11-5 record.

Of course, any given Sunday!!!

Paintrain · 11-05-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyharless

The rest of the season is very important now:

Eagles.......(3-5) - Must win for Skins.....6-3 (NFC-E)
Cowgirls.....(7-1) - Likely Loss for Skins...6-4 (NFC-E)
Bucs..........(5-4) - Must win for Skins.....7-4 (NFC)
Bills...........(4-4) - Must win for Skins.....8-4 (AFC)
Bears.........(3-5) - Must win for Skins.....9-4 (NFC)
Giants........(6-2) - Must win for Skins....10-4 (NFC-E)
Vikings.......(3-5) - Must win for Skins....11-4 (NFC)
Cowgirls.....(7-1) - Must win for Skins.....12-4 (NFC-E)

The Cowgirls have to get by the Packers, Giants and Skins. Hope for 3 loses there that would tie us 12-4

Hope that Detroit and NE beat the Giants. Then it is our job to make sure we beat the Giants to give them an 11-5 record.

Of course, any given Sunday!!!

Wow, such brilliant insight.. The rest of the season wasn't important before now?

While I'd love to go 7-1 down the stretch I'd also like Santa Clause to bring me an autographed picture of the Easter Bunny but I don't see that happening either..

GMScud · 11-05-2007, 08:54 PM

Of course we should be happy.
1) We WON the stinkin game
2) Portis and the O-line played very well (at least in run-blocking)
3) Nobody got hurt.

That said, the passing game needs a massive amount of work. I'm a little concerned about the D allowing 338 yards or whatever it was, but holding them to 13 points (7 came on that damn KO return)on the road is solid. This Jets squad is in large part the same team that went 10-6 last year, so I'll take it.

But damn it, our offense has just GOT TO start scoring more points.

vaoutlaws2006 · 11-05-2007, 08:27 AM

a win is a win...be it by 45 points or 3 points it still all counts the same. Good teams beat the teams they are suppose to beat...had we lost i dont think we can consider ourselves a good team. Bring on the Eagles. 5-3 at the halfway point...ill take that.

MTK · 11-05-2007, 08:29 AM

The difference between bad teams and good teams isn't all that much. We should know, last year we found ways to lose games like yesterday. The Jets are not a bad team, they are just a play or two away each game from being a winning team.

No need to hang your head after a win.

BDBohnzie · 11-05-2007, 10:33 AM

They talked about going back to Redskins football, and they did that yesterday. Controlled the clock (36 v. 31 minutes), ran the football (48 carries v. 23 pass attempts), and played good defense (3 points after the 9 minute mark in the 2nd quarter). Aside from the poor coverage on the opening kickoff (tried to pin Washington to the right, and overpursued), the Redskins played a solid game all around.

I was reading an article over the weekend about Al Saunders, and the one thing that sticks out was the fact that he sets up the offense to compliment the defense. They are playing conservative because their defense is good enough to keep them in games (ala the Baltimore Ravens). Yesterday, the Redskins did take some shots downfield, and we will see more of that in the weeks to come.

A win is a win, no matter how pretty or how ugly it is. And, who's to say you can't make improvements after win? A struggling Philly team comes to town this weekend. They always seem to play up when they play the Skins...so a battle will ensue come Sunday.

5-3 is great. 6-3 for a team that won 5 games last year is a very nice change of pace. Be proud to be a Skins fan...

dmek25 · 11-05-2007, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

They talked about going back to Redskins football, and they did that yesterday. Controlled the clock (36 v. 31 minutes), ran the football (48 carries v. 23 pass attempts), and played good defense (3 points after the 9 minute mark in the 2nd quarter). Aside from the poor coverage on the opening kickoff (tried to pin Washington to the right, and overpursued), the Redskins played a solid game all around.

I was reading an article over the weekend about Al Saunders, and the one thing that sticks out was the fact that he sets up the offense to compliment the defense. They are playing conservative because their defense is good enough to keep them in games (ala the Baltimore Ravens). Yesterday, the Redskins did take some shots downfield, and we will see more of that in the weeks to come.

A win is a win, no matter how pretty or how ugly it is. And, who's to say you can't make improvements after win? A struggling Philly team comes to town this weekend. They always seem to play up when they play the Skins...so a battle will ensue come Sunday.

5-3 is great. 6-3 for a team that won 5 games last year is a very nice change of pace. Be proud to be a Skins fan...

good read. and maybe instead of all the bitching, be proud?

CrazyCanuck · 11-05-2007, 01:57 PM

I'm very happy with this win. I don't care if the Jets are 1-7, it's tough to win in the NFL, especially on the road.

I know we didn't play great and we may not be the Super Bowl favorite but I'm very happy with this hard fought win.

11-04-2007, 11:11 PM	#1
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 63 Posts: 4,929	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win I posted this in another thread but I'm going to post it here too, we were lucky to escape with the win,kudo's to the off line and suisham,looks like he got his hook fixed,a lot of people didnt think he would be able to make a game winning kick,especially from that distance,i had my doubts also going into the game but after the way he was kicking prior to o.t. I had confidence in him for the last kick. Still very unimpressed with offense and playcalling,my main problem with it being so unimaginative,remember all the presnap motion Gibbs used to do? but my main problem isnt about that,its what we do when we run the play.We rarley use the shotgun,when we do pass its usually straight 7 yrd drop back passes with no play action pass,theres no deception on off to try and confuse the def.I noticed last week against N.E.,and this week against the jets,who looked like they might have used some of N.E.'s plays,their off's used misdirection,fake handoffs and fake reverses,a lot of different looks that confused our def and kept us off balance,I see none of that in our off except for once or twice a game.One of our best plays today was Jason dropping back to pass and faking the throw and then the delayed handoff to portis for a good gain,that was a great call but theres not enough of that kind of playcalling.Today we were able to win because the off line came together and opened some holes,if they wouldnt have the outcry on hear would be so bad you wouldnt be able to stand it. I wouldnt be as concerned with the playcalling as far as run pass ratio if i saw some imagination with the plays instead of straight handoffs and straight dropback passing __________________ Make The Redskins Great Again

11-04-2007, 11:44 PM	#2
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 42 Posts: 890	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win great win today. i thought it was done after that long pass by the jets in OT. i would like to see JC hit some of his big throws. they tout him for throwing a great deep ball but i just haven't seen it yet. still, ill take the W and am planning to take the rest of the season one game at a time.

11-04-2007, 11:56 PM	#3
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win Of COURSE we should be happy--we we're down 17 to 3, to the JETS!!! Pluses: The run game--we're going to need it, though it won't be this easy down the road. Shuish--very clutch. Landry (but for the one bone-head play, though he was flying there, even). Onside kick. Portis--he matters for this team, whatever the detractors say. And Betts looked good as well. Minuses: Specials TD on the first friggin play of the game. Weak passing attack, though every now and they you saw flashes. D gave up lots of yards, and lots of 3rd downs. Some weak penalties. Remember, we got creamed last week--that can linger. Plus, this was a trap game in lots of ways--after the Pats, before the Eagles, and with the Jets really being better than their record shows. I watched them lose to the Ravens, and thought they looked pretty much like we saw today. Bottom line: had to have it, and we got it. Now things get tougher. __________________ Hail from Houston!

11-05-2007, 12:01 AM	#4
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 40 Posts: 5,813	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win happy with the win, but i hated that last run call before we punted to let them get the tying field goal.... thats why we lost the games we lost wit the exception of N.E...... situations like that can easily make or break a game __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

11-05-2007, 12:08 AM	#5
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win Agree about the that call in the 4th, Meks--gotta convert there. We have had toruble with that all year. Why not throw to Cooley? Worked much of the day. Gotta trust JC a bit more there. But I can see their thinking with the day we were having in the run game. But whatever--find a way to convert!!!!! __________________ Hail from Houston!

11-05-2007, 06:16 AM	#6
billyharless Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AA County, Md Age: 61 Posts: 150	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win Yes, the Jets are a better team than their record shows. I am glad Coles was not playing. I am happy to be 5-3 for the first 8 games. If we can split with the Cowgirls and beat the Eagles and Giants then we have a great chance to finish 10-6 or better. __________________ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/billyharless

11-05-2007, 06:37 AM	#7
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win not to beat a dead horse, but... i personally dont care what it looks like. ill take any win. and more then likely, 10 wins gets the skins in. if the skins win when the should, they will be in. all they need is 5 more ugly wins __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-05-2007, 07:27 AM	#8
billyharless Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AA County, Md Age: 61 Posts: 150	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win The rest of the season is very important now: Eagles.......(3-5) - Must win for Skins.....6-3 (NFC-E) Cowgirls.....(7-1) - Likely Loss for Skins...6-4 (NFC-E) Bucs..........(5-4) - Must win for Skins.....7-4 (NFC) Bills...........(4-4) - Must win for Skins.....8-4 (AFC) Bears.........(3-5) - Must win for Skins.....9-4 (NFC) Giants........(6-2) - Must win for Skins....10-4 (NFC-E) Vikings.......(3-5) - Must win for Skins....11-4 (NFC) Cowgirls.....(7-1) - Must win for Skins.....12-4 (NFC-E) The Cowgirls have to get by the Packers, Giants and Skins. Hope for 3 loses there that would tie us 12-4 Hope that Detroit and NE beat the Giants. Then it is our job to make sure we beat the Giants to give them an 11-5 record. Of course, any given Sunday!!! __________________ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/billyharless

11-05-2007, 08:54 PM	#10
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win Of course we should be happy. 1) We WON the stinkin game 2) Portis and the O-line played very well (at least in run-blocking) 3) Nobody got hurt. That said, the passing game needs a massive amount of work. I'm a little concerned about the D allowing 338 yards or whatever it was, but holding them to 13 points (7 came on that damn KO return)on the road is solid. This Jets squad is in large part the same team that went 10-6 last year, so I'll take it. But damn it, our offense has just GOT TO start scoring more points. __________________ Tardy

11-05-2007, 08:27 AM	#11
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 53 Posts: 806	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win a win is a win...be it by 45 points or 3 points it still all counts the same. Good teams beat the teams they are suppose to beat...had we lost i dont think we can consider ourselves a good team. Bring on the Eagles. 5-3 at the halfway point...ill take that. __________________ The future is obviously right now!

11-05-2007, 08:29 AM	#12
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win The difference between bad teams and good teams isn't all that much. We should know, last year we found ways to lose games like yesterday. The Jets are not a bad team, they are just a play or two away each game from being a winning team. No need to hang your head after a win. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-05-2007, 10:33 AM	#13
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 46 Posts: 4,628	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win They talked about going back to Redskins football, and they did that yesterday. Controlled the clock (36 v. 31 minutes), ran the football (48 carries v. 23 pass attempts), and played good defense (3 points after the 9 minute mark in the 2nd quarter). Aside from the poor coverage on the opening kickoff (tried to pin Washington to the right, and overpursued), the Redskins played a solid game all around. I was reading an article over the weekend about Al Saunders, and the one thing that sticks out was the fact that he sets up the offense to compliment the defense. They are playing conservative because their defense is good enough to keep them in games (ala the Baltimore Ravens). Yesterday, the Redskins did take some shots downfield, and we will see more of that in the weeks to come. A win is a win, no matter how pretty or how ugly it is. And, who's to say you can't make improvements after win? A struggling Philly team comes to town this weekend. They always seem to play up when they play the Skins...so a battle will ensue come Sunday. 5-3 is great. 6-3 for a team that won 5 games last year is a very nice change of pace. Be proud to be a Skins fan... __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

11-05-2007, 01:57 PM	#15
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Re: Should We Be As Happy With This Win I'm very happy with this win. I don't care if the Jets are 1-7, it's tough to win in the NFL, especially on the road. I know we didn't play great and we may not be the Super Bowl favorite but I'm very happy with this hard fought win.

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