Gibbs

[Redskin334]

Wow I didn't know so many people hated Gibbs on this site. He did a lot of great things but he did alot of questionable things but what coach hasn't.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan242

I know half the people don't agree with what Gibbs has done but lets take a look back.

He drafted C. Rogers over M. Williams (who I know everyone wanted). How did that end up?

We got Portis and Springs essentially for Bailey and T. Bell.

We Got M. Washington, C. Griffin, C. Rabach, L. Fletcher, Randle El, Moss

We Drafted J. Campbell, S. Taylor, L. Landry, R. McIntosh, A. Montgomery, K. Golston

Didn't overpay Smoot and then brought him back for much less

We found C. Wilson. L. Alexander, S. Suisham, E. Albright

We waited to play J. Campbell until he was ready while everyone was screaming for him. We didn't throw him in the fire look at how that worked out for San Fran and others.

He built a physical team from Spurriers mess he left us with.

We are complaining about a WINNING record when we haven't won anything in 16 years.

Sure there were a few mishaps Lloyd, Archuleta, Clark.

But can anyone say when if he steps down we aren't light years ahead of where we were? I didn't think so.

Maybe you've forgotten to compare Gibbs' record over the last four years with Spurrier's record.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Irish,

Look at the last 3-4 drafts and then state that just 20% of the 1st round picks were busts. Looking at 2005, I would classify the following picks as busts:

#1 Alex Smith
#5 Carnell Williams (he was under the gun before the injury)
#6 Pacman Jones (he hasn't worked out, doesn't matter why)
#7 Troy Williamson
#8 Antrel Rolle
#10 Mike Williams
#16 Travis Johnson (1 sack 3 years)
#17 David Pollack
#18 Erasmus James (4 sacks in 3 years)
#20 Marcus Spears (3.5 sacks in 3 years)
#21 Matt Jones

That's 11 out of 32. Moreover Rod Gardner-types are likely to emerge, i.e., guys who look okay now, but turn out to be busts down the road.

Contrary to your assertions, you did claim that it was easy to pick 1st rounders. You stated that anyone with a basic understanding of college football could pick quality 1st rounders. You then stated that you never said it was easy to pick 1st rounders.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Czabe got it wrong, we didn't trade a 7th for Thrash, we traded a 5th rounder.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Czabe got it wrong, we didn't trade a 7th for Thrash, we traded a 5th rounder.

OK, so that's even worse.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

OK, so that's even worse.

Yeah and although Czabe did a good job of listing everything Gibbs has done wrong, he said nothing about anything Gibbs has done right. I don't particularly care to go through every FA moves orchestrated by Gibbs, but guys like Landry, Taylor, Cooley, Campbell, Moss, Rabach, Carter, Washington, Fletcher, Rocky, Springs, Rogers, Smoot II, Griffin, and others are looking pretty good. If you're looking for a one-sided view of things, Czabe's your man as his brain is the size of my right testicle. If you're looking for a balanced view (looking at the good and the bad), look elsewhere.

For some reason, some people like Czabe have a hard time finding the good and the bad in things. My cousin is like that....but he's 10 years old. What is Czabe's excuse?

[Beemnseven]

Not true. Up until the Eagles game, Czabe was taking it easy on the Redskins this year, even after almost blowing the Arizona game, he went on the air and basically said be happy that we're on the plus side of .500.

Don't get me wrong, he'll devour the Skins, the front office, the coaching staff, like a bloodthirsty wolverine if they stink up the joint tomorrow.

But if you've been listening to him, he's been very fair with them this year.

As for the acquisitions you mentioned, yes, there are a few guys (Cooley, Landry, Campbell) who give us youth and promise for several seasons to come, but most of the guys you mentioned were brought here for the 'win now' philosophy, and are facing the downside of their career, not the upside.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Not true. Up until the Eagles game, Czabe was taking it easy on the Redskins this year, even after almost blowing the Arizona game, he went on the air and basically said be happy that we're on the plus side of .500.

Don't get me wrong, he'll devour the Skins, the front office, the coaching staff, like a bloodthirsty wolverine if they stink up the joint tomorrow.

But if you've been listening to him, he's been very fair with them this year.

As for the acquisitions you mentioned, yes, there are a few guys (Cooley, Landry, Campbell) who give us youth and promise for several seasons to come, but most of the guys you mentioned were brought here for the 'win now' philosophy, and are facing the downside of their career, not the upside.

He's not fair with them in his blog. Except for after the Eagles game when he jumped on the bandwagon for a few days. And he's just a vile person. Sorry, I just can't stand the man. He has no redeeming qualities in my opinion.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Yeah and although Czabe did a good job of listing everything Gibbs has done wrong, he said nothing about anything Gibbs has done right. I don't particularly care to go through every FA moves orchestrated by Gibbs, but guys like Landry, Taylor, Cooley, Campbell, Moss, Rabach, Carter, Washington, Fletcher, Rocky, Springs, Rogers, Smoot II, Griffin, and others are looking pretty good. If you're looking for a one-sided view of things, Czabe's your man as his brain is the size of my right testicle. If you're looking for a balanced view (looking at the good and the bad), look elsewhere.

For some reason, some people like Czabe have a hard time finding the good and the bad in things. My cousin is like that....but he's 10 years old. What is Czabe's excuse?

LOL good stuff

[He Hate Me]

Originally Posted by skinsfan242

I know half the people don't agree with what Gibbs has done but lets take a look back.

He drafted C. Rogers over M. Williams (who I know everyone wanted). How did that end up?

We got Portis and Springs essentially for Bailey and T. Bell.

We Got M. Washington, C. Griffin, C. Rabach, L. Fletcher, Randle El, Moss

We Drafted J. Campbell, S. Taylor, L. Landry, R. McIntosh, A. Montgomery, K. Golston

Didn't overpay Smoot and then brought him back for much less

We found C. Wilson. L. Alexander, S. Suisham, E. Albright

We waited to play J. Campbell until he was ready while everyone was screaming for him. We didn't throw him in the fire look at how that worked out for San Fran and others.

He built a physical team from Spurriers mess he left us with.

We are complaining about a WINNING record when we haven't won anything in 16 years.

Sure there were a few mishaps Lloyd, Archuleta, Clark.

But can anyone say when if he steps down we aren't light years ahead of where we were? I didn't think so.

Good points... Get him off the field and in the front office.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfan242

I know half the people don't agree with what Gibbs has done but lets take a look back.

He drafted C. Rogers over M. Williams (who I know everyone wanted). How did that end up?

We got Portis and Springs essentially for Bailey and T. Bell.

We Got M. Washington, C. Griffin, C. Rabach, L. Fletcher, Randle El, Moss

We Drafted J. Campbell, S. Taylor, L. Landry, R. McIntosh, A. Montgomery, K. Golston

Didn't overpay Smoot and then brought him back for much less

We found C. Wilson. L. Alexander, S. Suisham, E. Albright

We waited to play J. Campbell until he was ready while everyone was screaming for him. We didn't throw him in the fire look at how that worked out for San Fran and others.

He built a physical team from Spurriers mess he left us with.

We are complaining about a WINNING record when we haven't won anything in 16 years.

Sure there were a few mishaps Lloyd, Archuleta, Clark.

But can anyone say when if he steps down we aren't light years ahead of where we were? I didn't think so.

In order to be a top NFL team we have to have guys that our at the top of they're positions and right now we just don't have the talent level. Even if we were 100% healthy we still do not match up with the top teams.

The biggest mistakes Gibbs has made is giving up draft picks for Duckett, Brunell and Lloyd. He's in year 4 and none of those guys are even on the field or on the roster. So you have 3 guys he gave up picks for that don't play. On top of that he lost the drat picks too. So what's that? 8 or 9 guys that could or should be contributing that are not. Instead he fills the spots with FA's that come from another system and it just doesn't work.