Are we the Detroit Lions?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah, real elite.

Right up there with the Pats.

He could of said the Eagles, and then there would have been a point. But the Cowboys have been every bit as pathetic as the Redskins over the last 12 years and then some.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Right up there with the Pats.

He could of said the Eagles, and then there would have been a point. But the Cowboys have been every bit as pathetic as the Redskins over the last 12 years and then some.

I was not trying to compare the Skins to the Cowboys. My point is that the Skins are closer to a bottom dweller than to the top.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I was not trying to compare the Skins to the Cowboys. My point is that the Skins are closer to a bottom dweller than to the top.

And our point is the Cowboys aren't as close to the top as you think, not even close looking at recent years.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Dallas Cowboys wins by year, 1997 to present:

6,10,8,5,5,5,10,6,9,9,13. Four games below .500 in that span. Zero playoff wins.

Go JJ!

I have no idea (which is why I am asking) but how many games below .500 are the Skins since 1997?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by irish

I have no idea (which is why I am asking) but how many games below .500 are the Skins since 1997?

Eleven.

Clearly the Skins are not the model NFL Franchise. But eleven games under is comprable to Dallas.

Because New England is 56 games over .500 in that timeframe.

[MTK]

15 years ago the Patriots were one of the worst franchises in all of sports. How is that relevant to today? Why do people always want to dig so far into the past when talking about the current state of different franchises?? How about a more realistic time frame? Maybe the last 5-7 years?

[BDBohnzie]

We are not the Detroit Lions. No winning record since 2000, no playoffs since 1999, no playoff win since 1991, no Super Bowl titles, no League title since 1957.

And while the Redskins are not among the elite, they are not among the bottom dwellers either.

Next question.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Did the original post that got all of this started actually use the phrase "beautiful FedEx"? When did that happen?

[MTK]

For the record in this decade the Cowboys are 62-66. The Redskins are 58-70. A whopping 4 game difference.

[GTripp0012]

The Cards are 52 games below .500 since 1997

The Lions are also 52 games below .500 since 1997.

So conclusion: Lions comparable to Cards, Skins comparable to Cowboys, Pats comparable to no one.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The Cards are 52 games below .500 since 1997

The Lions are also 52 games below .500 since 1997.

So conclusion: Lions comparable to Cards, Skins comparable to Cowboys, Pats comparable to no one.

Pretty much.

But that doesn't make good drama.

This does: SNYDER NEEDS TO SELL THE TEAM

[JWsleep]

I do like pie...

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by rypper11

It is becoming painfully more obvious that we are laughed at around the league. From the way we handle the draft to the way we hire a coach to throwing cash at underachievers. Yet, we still sell out every game and the fan base grows. Almost every city in the country has an official Redskins fan club. The owner tries hard to win a championship (despite his failings) and will spend money. The fans care. The team has legacy and a strong history.
What's wrong?
In Detroit, DC, Cleveland and Kansas City fans live for their team (among others). The average Bostonian would rather see the Sox play a day game than another SB. In NY they have so many teams in different sports it's hard to say which is biggest. But these are the SB teams?
We are Detroit now. Vinny is Matt Millen and beautiful FedEx is just like beautiful Ford Field (though they at least can get a SB hosted there).
I pray that we don't endure the gap between championships that Detroit has, but it wouldn't suprise me.
So find solace, fellow fans, there are others like us out there. Of course, we can still laugh at the Texans. For now.

Well your first pargraph listed things that happened while Gibbs was here so I guess we have been the laughing stock for the past 4 years and more.

[Monkeydad]

I think Snyder sold most of our members' brains.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous threads EVER.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Buster

I think Snyder sold most of our members' brains.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous threads EVER.

If he turned a profit on that, he's probably the greatest salesman ever.