Randy Moss Not Franchised

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by love them hogs

Did lucky die?

i guess the kids finally caught him

[CPAlltheWay012]

In all likelihood Moss will probably resign with the Patriots reguardless... HOWEVER.. I would not be the least bit surprised to see teams (who need a WR) like the Eagles throw big bucks at him.. I'd say that's his only chance of leaving.

[Skins4Life101]

There is NO way Randy Moss becomes a Redskins. COnsistent Tom Brady versus NEW COACH AND RISING QB?

I think he wants a ring, and respects the game to much...

He's staying in NE

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Skins4Life101

There is NO way Randy Moss becomes a Redskins. COnsistent Tom Brady versus NEW COACH AND RISING QB?

I think he wants a ring, and respects the game to much...

He's staying in NE

A rising QB, not yet but we hope.

[prinzeofmoval]

we're tooo streaky of a team to keep him happy...couple of bad games from Campbell and he'll be badmouthing him on sportscenter

[sportscurmudgeon]

Let's try to be objective here for just a moment:

At the top of his game, Randy Moss is better than ANY WR the Redskins have put on the field since Bobby Mitchell retired - - and maybe he's even better than Bobby Mitchell. None of the heroes this team has put on the field for the past decade can even aspire to be a jock-sniffer in the elite status that Randy Moss and a few other WRs in NFL history inhabit.

In case I haven't made myself clear, Randy Moss is so much better than any WR the Redskins have been able to put on the field in the past 30 years that it isn't even worthy of discussion.

So ... should the Skins try to sign him? No!

Randy Moss has shown in college and in the NFL that he excels under two different sets of circumstances:

1. HE is THE man and the focus of ALL the offensive accolades for the team.

or

2. The team is destined for the Super Bowl - - or better yet - - is destined to be undefeated for the season.

Neither of these conditions is likely to obtain in Washington in 2008 or 2009 or 2010 and that's the length of time - at a minimum - it will take to sign Moss and pay him and have his guaranteed money spread out sufficiently that it does not turn him into a salary cap nightmare.

Bottom Line: He's not worth the risk/cost.

[SpeedyDuncan]

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;424944]Let's try to be objective here for just a moment:

At the top of his game, Randy Moss is better than ANY WR the Redskins have put on the field since Bobby Mitchell retired - - and maybe he's even better than Bobby Mitchell. None of the heroes this team has put on the field for the past decade can even aspire to be a jock-sniffer in the elite status that Randy Moss and a few other WRs in NFL history inhabit.

In case I haven't made myself clear, Randy Moss is so much better than any WR the Redskins have been able to put on the field in the past 30 years that it isn't even worthy of discussion.


I would be willing to discuss Art Monk vs. Moss on more than one level. I think it's worthy of a discussion.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Speedy Duncan:

Art Monk was a great WR. He is in the HoF and it took too long for him to get there.

In their primes, Randy Moss is simply a better WR than Art Monk was. That is not to demean Monk; it is just a recognition that there have been better WRs in the NFL than Art Monk and Randy Moss is one of them.

By the way, Jerry Rice was another one of them. So was ...

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Let's try to be objective here for just a moment:

At the top of his game, Randy Moss is better than ANY WR the Redskins have put on the field since Bobby Mitchell retired - - and maybe he's even better than Bobby Mitchell. None of the heroes this team has put on the field for the past decade can even aspire to be a jock-sniffer in the elite status that Randy Moss and a few other WRs in NFL history inhabit.

In case I haven't made myself clear, Randy Moss is so much better than any WR the Redskins have been able to put on the field in the past 30 years that it isn't even worthy of discussion.

So ... should the Skins try to sign him? No!

Randy Moss has shown in college and in the NFL that he excels under two different sets of circumstances:

1. HE is THE man and the focus of ALL the offensive accolades for the team.

or

2. The team is destined for the Super Bowl - - or better yet - - is destined to be undefeated for the season.

Neither of these conditions is likely to obtain in Washington in 2008 or 2009 or 2010 and that's the length of time - at a minimum - it will take to sign Moss and pay him and have his guaranteed money spread out sufficiently that it does not turn him into a salary cap nightmare.

Bottom Line: He's not worth the risk/cost.

Have you considered that Moss's accomplishments were a major factor in the Patriots undefeated regular season?

23 TD's in a season (new NFL record), lets take away HALF of those TD's he caught and say he only caught 12 as a "mortal" reciever.

Does NE have an undefeated regular season then? How many games in the last half of the season did they win by less than 6 points? Plenty.

Just saying that he is not looking for an undefeated season, but rather he was a reason for that undefeated regular season.

I do hear what you are saying though. Moss is a very one-dimensional player. It is the deep ball or nothing. If he was really that good, he would not have been a bust in Oakland. Problem was in Oakland by the time Moss looked for the ball the QB was already on his back. Lousy O-line.

Moss is not the guy to go over the middle and get those tough yards in the middle of the secondary.

[irish]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Let's try to be objective here for just a moment:

At the top of his game, Randy Moss is better than ANY WR the Redskins have put on the field since Bobby Mitchell retired - - and maybe he's even better than Bobby Mitchell. None of the heroes this team has put on the field for the past decade can even aspire to be a jock-sniffer in the elite status that Randy Moss and a few other WRs in NFL history inhabit.

In case I haven't made myself clear, Randy Moss is so much better than any WR the Redskins have been able to put on the field in the past 30 years that it isn't even worthy of discussion.

So ... should the Skins try to sign him? No!

Randy Moss has shown in college and in the NFL that he excels under two different sets of circumstances:

1. HE is THE man and the focus of ALL the offensive accolades for the team.

or

2. The team is destined for the Super Bowl - - or better yet - - is destined to be undefeated for the season.

Neither of these conditions is likely to obtain in Washington in 2008 or 2009 or 2010 and that's the length of time - at a minimum - it will take to sign Moss and pay him and have his guaranteed money spread out sufficiently that it does not turn him into a salary cap nightmare.

Bottom Line: He's not worth the risk/cost.

I couldnt have said it better myself. The Skins dont win enough to keep Moss happy and out of trouble. He might be worth the risk/cost for some teams but not the Skins.

[sandtrapjack]

Well this all may be a dead issue. Just read that the reason that the Pats did not franchise Moss is because they may be close to a new long-term deal.

Article goes on to say that the new deal won't be announced until February 29th, the start of the new "NFL year".

Link:
Patriots possibly near deal with Moss | New England Patriots | projo.com | The Providence Journal

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Well this all may be a dead issue. Just read that the reason that the Pats did not franchise Moss is because they may be close to a new long-term deal.

Article goes on to say that the new deal won't be announced until February 29th, the start of the new "NFL year".

Link:
Patriots possibly near deal with Moss | New England Patriots | projo.com | The Providence Journal

just what i thought. kraft and the pats aren't retarded. go figure .

[Redskin]

If I was Randy Moss, super bowl or not, I dont think I would like being under apreciated as much as the New Enland Patriots have underapreciated him. Tom Brady and BB come out and say all this great stuff about Randy and then they dont franchise him or even sign him at a high proce to say "hey we understand how big a part of the team you were last season" to me that is a slap in the face. If I were say Randy Moss I would take a different route to a place where a teams front office might appreciate him more.

Would I like to see him in B&G, I haved mixed feelings on that and you cant say he effects the offense where ever he goes just look what he did in Oakland. He may be a risky investment but maybe he can make some slacker team a contender.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Redskin

If I was Randy Moss, super bowl or not, I dont think I would like being under apreciated as much as the New Enland Patriots have underapreciated him. Tom Brady and BB come out and say all this great stuff about Randy and then they dont franchise him or even sign him at a high proce to say "hey we understand how big a part of the team you were last season" to me that is a slap in the face. If I were say Randy Moss I would take a different route to a place where a teams front office might appreciate him more.

Would I like to see him in B&G, I haved mixed feelings on that and you cant say he effects the offense where ever he goes just look what he did in Oakland. He may be a risky investment but maybe he can make some slacker team a contender.

How do you even know that the reason that they did not frncise him is because they are close to a deal and there was no need to do so.

[That Guy]

he took a 6mill paycut to join the pats last year, and kraft is a VERY rich owner with more cap room than us. I think not franchising him was a gesture of respect, and I'd still bet the house he's in NE when it's said and done.

you can't argue the results, and I'd imagine the guys in the locker room love him and his 22 TDs something fierce.

he's probably got 5 more good years left, as weird as that sounds (seems like he's been around forever), and while he'd definitely give us a huge offensive boost, I can't see him wanting to come here and we can't afford him anyways.