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Old 05-24-2008, 09:56 PM   #1
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

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Good thread topic.

I haven't heard anything on Heyer this offseason (if anybody has a link to an article please post), but he did not look like starting material IMO last season. Jansen will start... I wouldn't bet a single dollar he finishes the season. I re-reviewed some preseason tape from 07 and Jansen looked like the slowest player on the field every single down. IMHO opinion he was doomed to get hurt because when you're slow in a game of speed you're gonna get trampled or rolled up on or something. Hopefully, he's started to take better care of himself and increased his quickness. I've been a little pessimistic about Jansen since I heard him complain of the heat in D.C. and admit that he "eats like crap." With millions on hand I might think about hiring a chef who can satisfy my appetite and keep me in tip-top shape - how is it that half of hollywood does it but it's somehow too much to ask of a professional athlete?
Most OLinemen eat like crap, are the slowest guys on the field, and hate temps above 55 degrees. Flexibility, hand quickness, brute strength and footwork are far more important for the position than speed. Could you imagine Walter Jones, Matt Lyght, Steve Hutchinson or any other elite lineman outrunning any non-Olineman on their respective teams?
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Old 05-24-2008, 10:53 PM   #2
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

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Good thread topic.

I haven't heard anything on Heyer this offseason (if anybody has a link to an article please post), but he did not look like starting material IMO last season. Jansen will start... I wouldn't bet a single dollar he finishes the season. I re-reviewed some preseason tape from 07 and Jansen looked like the slowest player on the field every single down. IMHO opinion he was doomed to get hurt because when you're slow in a game of speed you're gonna get trampled or rolled up on or something. Hopefully, he's started to take better care of himself and increased his quickness. I've been a little pessimistic about Jansen since I heard him complain of the heat in D.C. and admit that he "eats like crap." With millions on hand I might think about hiring a chef who can satisfy my appetite and keep me in tip-top shape - how is it that half of hollywood does it but it's somehow too much to ask of a professional athlete?
Have you heard about Randy Thomas and his eating habits?
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:27 AM   #3
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

It will be Jansen. That being said Jansen could very easily go down again and you could see Heyer. I really doubt that Jansen will be pulled due to performance issues though.
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:44 AM   #4
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

I would be shocked and awed if a healthy Jansen was not starting opening day.
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Old 05-24-2008, 11:43 AM   #5
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

I do not think Heyer is quallity starting material. That said I do think Jansen is on the down side and Heyer could be better then him. I really do not like either. We were absolutely crazy to drat 5'9 Tryon instead of 6'5 340 pound Carl Nicks who was the most physically gifted right tackle/guard in the draft. Right tackle worries me and I do not think it would be out of the question, though not likely that Wade could start if healthy because he might be the best run blocker of the three. If Heyer were a little bigger, like 6'7 330 instead of 6'6 320, i'd be i little bit more optimistic about his chances, but because of his lack of quickness and average size; i'd say he's a backup at best and this is Jansen's last season.
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:17 PM   #6
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I do not think Heyer is quallity starting material. That said I do think Jansen is on the down side and Heyer could be better then him. I really do not like either. We were absolutely crazy to drat 5'9 Tryon instead of 6'5 340 pound Carl Nicks who was the most physically gifted right tackle/guard in the draft. Right tackle worries me and I do not think it would be out of the question, though not likely that Wade could start if healthy because he might be the best run blocker of the three. If Heyer were a little bigger, like 6'7 330 instead of 6'6 320, i'd be i little bit more optimistic about his chances, but because of his lack of quickness and average size; i'd say he's a backup at best and this is Jansen's last season.
Since when is 320 6-6 not big enough, thats prototypical size.
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Since when is 320 6-6 not big enough, thats prototypical size.
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

I hope Heyer moves into the starting role.He played pretty damn good last year
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

Heyer did not look like he was anywhere near ready to start at RT. He looked like a late round pick who needed TE help to get the job done. I like Heyer, he didn't look like a UDFA. and has potential....but he's not better than even an aging Jansen.
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:17 PM   #10
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

I think Jansen is easily the starter but when he goes down Heyer goes in. Lets say Jansen has another season ending injury and Heyer steps in and performs good enough to take the job from Jansen I believe we could be seeing the last of Jansen in a Redskins uni.
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I think Jansen is easily the starter but when he goes down Heyer goes in. Lets say Jansen has another season ending injury and Heyer steps in and performs good enough to take the job from Jansen I believe we could be seeing the last of Jansen in a Redskins uni.
I wouldnt say you're going too far out on a limb by saying that we wouldnt see jansen again if he goes down with another season ending injury this year, in fact i would be shocked if he wasnt released after yet another season ending injury, especially considering his talent has been in decline a couple of years now.
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:33 PM   #12
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

I'm hoping Jansen is in better shape and stays healthy.
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:26 PM   #13
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

I agree with the no brainer comment...
Jansen....Heyer is a basic backup right now and though Jansen has declined...he is far more experienced and better than Heyer...
now Wade on the other hand is the more realistic question.

I personally believe Heyer with backup ahead of Wade....because of age, pay and most importantly....performance
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Old 05-24-2008, 06:34 PM   #14
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

At first when I saw this thread I thought it an almost ridiculous question, but I gave it a thought & read the original post, which said that Heyer is making major progress in the offseason. If that's true I could almost see it happening in the same fashion that Montgomery became a starter last year.

I'm hoping Jansen is up to the task & the job is his to lose. He's a bit slower & has problems w/speed rushers, but Heyer got manhandled on bull rushes by P. Kearnery in the playoffs. His strength seems far away from being starting material, but maybe that's changed.
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:05 PM   #15
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Re: Who Will Start, Heyer or Jansen?

While I don't think Heyer played all that well last year, I do believe he showed promise enough to make the coaches believe with some good training he can become a good player. I think a lot of people were expecting more of him, but for me, the fact that he was an undrafted free agent rookie who ended up getting a lot of playing time in his rookie season, well he performed good enough for me to believe that with some help from Buges he can become a quality backup.
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