Raiders finally fire Kiffin

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Sorry there's no way I believe a word that Davis says on this. As someone said he's batshit crazy and he's the ultimate control freak. I'm guessing Kiffin didn't bow to his every word and it pissed him off, and now the cheap bastard is trying to get out of paying his contract. Absolutely pathetic.

So you think everything Davis said is a lie? I know he's nuts but I tend to think that some of what he said is true. I believe the part about him not wanting Russell and trying to fire Ryan. I also believe Kiffin is lying about not talking to Davis for three weeks. The reporters Kiffin on it and he just blew them off.

I didn't watch the Buffalo game but it was reported that Kiffin had Janikowski try and 75 yard FG at the end of the game. Can anyone out there explain this? To me it looked like Kiffin was trying to get fired and still get paid.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you think everything Davis said is a lie? I know he's nuts but I tend to think that some of what he said is true. I believe the part about him not wanting Russell and trying to fire Ryan. I also believe Kiffin is lying about not talking to Davis for three weeks. The reporters Kiffin on it and he just blew them off.

I didn't watch the Buffalo game but it was reported that Kiffin had Janikowski try and 75 yard FG at the end of the game. Can anyone out there explain this? To me it looked like Kiffin was trying to get fired and still get paid.

It was at the end of the 1rst half.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you think everything Davis said is a lie? I know he's nuts but I tend to think that some of what he said is true. I believe the part about him not wanting Russell and trying to fire Ryan. I also believe Kiffin is lying about not talking to Davis for three weeks. The reporters Kiffin on it and he just blew them off.

I didn't watch the Buffalo game but it was reported that Kiffin had Janikowski try and 75 yard FG at the end of the game. Can anyone out there explain this? To me it looked like Kiffin was trying to get fired and still get paid.

1. Why should Kiffing be punished for saying he didn't think the Raiders should draft Russell? Coaches offer their opinion all the time on who the front office should draft. The right thing to do is take into consideration the head coaches' opinion. "Just coach the damn players on the field" is not the right answer

2. Kiffin was told he would have say over his staff after year one. He had the right to fire Ryan if he so wanted.

3. The 76-yard field goal attempt, which I thought was a gamble, was with one second left at the end of the first half.


All that said, Kiffin should have never been hired in the first place. He wasn't ready.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1. Why should Kiffing be punished for saying he didn't think the Raiders should draft Russell? Coaches offer their opinion all the time on who the front office should draft. The right thing to do is take into consideration the head coaches' opinion. "Just coach the damn players on the field" is not the right answer

2. Kiffin was told he would have say over his staff after year one. He had the right to fire Ryan if he so wanted.

3. The 76-yard field goal attempt, which I thought was a gamble, was with one second left at the end of the first half.


All that said, Kiffin should have never been hired in the first place. He wasn't ready.

I agree with everyting you say. As a HC he has the right to do all those things.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1. Why should Kiffing be punished for saying he didn't think the Raiders should draft Russell? Coaches offer their opinion all the time on who the front office should draft. The right thing to do is take into consideration the head coaches' opinion. "Just coach the damn players on the field" is not the right answer

2. Kiffin was told he would have say over his staff after year one. He had the right to fire Ryan if he so wanted.

3. The 76-yard field goal attempt, which I thought was a gamble, was with one second left at the end of the first half.


All that said, Kiffin should have never been hired in the first place. He wasn't ready.

I do agree with that, although the team DID improve. They couldn't get much worse though!

Should've rehired Art Shell again if they could not find anyone to take the job.

It does look like Kiffin was right about Russell. He's horrible.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you think everything Davis said is a lie? I know he's nuts but I tend to think that some of what he said is true. I believe the part about him not wanting Russell and trying to fire Ryan. I also believe Kiffin is lying about not talking to Davis for three weeks. The reporters Kiffin on it and he just blew them off.

I didn't watch the Buffalo game but it was reported that Kiffin had Janikowski try and 75 yard FG at the end of the game. Can anyone out there explain this? To me it looked like Kiffin was trying to get fired and still get paid.

Yes, I do think he's telling lies. There may be some small truths in there, but I think he's blowing them way out of proportion to fit his story. I think he's embarrassed that he totally botched the hire of Kiffin and he's trying to save face by placing the blame on him, it's classic Al Davis. Given his long track record of pure crazy I see no reason to believe him at all.

[doughtydoubter]

bleh al davis and kiffin are both nuts

[johnerotten]

al davis's mystifing world of bullshit and delusion is just mystifing is'nt it? i just wonder if he got that way naturally,or he got that way dropping acid with lsd guru timothy leary in the 1960s? i don't think he's ready for an nfl coaching job,but i would be thrilled to see him coach at uva.he's 3000 miles away from california,and the pressures of being the new uva coach are nowhere near those of coaching an nfl team.

[johnerotten]

He did and Shanahan won the case

but he still has'nt collected the money though has he???
al davis is an eccentric insane asshole.he makes howard hughes and hannibal lecter seem like choirboys.

[itvnetop]

Anyone hear the interview with Warren Sapp? He said Davis would actually send in his orders for plays on defense, despite what scheme had been practiced all week!

[charlesperry19]

The whole situation was just sad. Give the man his money

[JLee9718]

I heard that Jim Fassel would take the job next year, if it's offered to him. He probably wants to play the Redskins! Nothing to lose, and a chance to get back at Dan Snyder.