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Old 11-18-2008, 08:58 AM   #1
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i totally agree with this statement. i didnt see any intensity, no hunger or energy. no one was really fired up from what i saw
This is something that is so subjective. Watching the game I was impressed with the way guys were flying around on D. There was some good hittin' going on out there.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:42 PM   #2
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Re: Question about Coach Zorn

I thought he called a conservative game. One long pass down the field!

However, I did have a revelation later in the game:

Why have Gibbs, Saunders and Zorn all had such limited and similiar playcalling? 1) Jason Campbell is ready yet? 2) Our WR aren't ready?

3) OL is getting beat?

Either Zorn has a limited imagination or he's doing the plays that the team can handle [based on practices].

BL - Team's know that Clinton Portis is the center of our offense. Stop him and we've got nothing left.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:15 PM   #3
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this is zorn's first time ever calling the plays and being a head coach.i'm pretty sure there is a large learning curve in there somewhere.this was never gonna work overnight.we'll just have to sit back and patient.skins are a good team,but nowhere close to a great team.that's just not gonna cut it in the NFL.look at it this way,he's started off better than gibbs did,and 12 years later he'd won superbowls with 3 diff qbs.
like tom petty said-"the waiting is the hardest part."
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:10 PM   #4
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His demeanor was appropriate, given how his offense performed. So, no, I have no reason to think he was ill. Watch the postgame presser. He certainly does not seem ill there, beyond his reasonable disgust at the way his offense just played.

I don't think the play-calling was so bad, Sunra. The short throws occurred as much because of pass pro breakdowns as anything else. You can't throw long if you don't have time. He might have run more, but without time to throw, Dallas was stacking the box. And I think they were trying to open the passing game up a bit against Dallas's secondary. It didn't work, no doubt. But it's not clear that it was strictly play calling. One play where I was dissapointed was throwing on 3rd and short that led to the INT. Otherwise, I think the plays were ok, but we couldn't block long enough to allow them to develop.

Hopefully, Zorn will get it on track. Seattle is a must win, no doubt.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:25 PM   #5
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I think just about everyone who cares about the Redskins looked like they were ready to blow chunks the whole game. I know I did.


after the game,i actually did.i don't know if it was from the miagraine i got watching the game,or something else!
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:44 PM   #6
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Maybe his cat got sick and died.
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:59 PM   #7
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^^^ yeah in the 1st quarter i noticed our D players were really flying in there to get a lil extra piece of a cowboy ball carrier as he was being brought down. One guy would have the tackle and another 2 would fly in there to give a shoulder as the cowboy was going down.

i also noticed the refs giving portis a hand to help him get up off the ground ALOT. 3 times in one drive i think. nice guys.

go skins!!
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^^^ yeah in the 1st quarter i noticed our D players were really flying in there to get a lil extra piece of a cowboy ball carrier as he was being brought down. One guy would have the tackle and another 2 would fly in there to give a shoulder as the cowboy was going down.

i also noticed the refs giving portis a hand to help him get up off the ground ALOT. 3 times in one drive i think. nice guys.

go skins!!
I think that one ref loved Portis, he was constantly helping him up, it was pretty funny
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I think that one ref loved Portis, he was constantly helping him up, it was pretty funny
The ref who was helping Portis was the umpire, Jim Quirk.

If that name sounds familiar, it's because it should. He was the guy who hogtied Nick Barnett last year, earning a one game suspension.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:07 PM   #10
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I thought our defense played fine, When you can hold an offense with that much scoring potential to 14 points it comes down to our offense making plays and scoring. Zorn's play calling has been going down hill for the past few games. Pretty much ever since the Philly game. I don't know what his deal is, but when I can sit on my couch at home and know what the play is going to be, especially on third and 4th down, I'm pretty sure that the other team is going to figure it out too.

Another thing that I don't understand is why it seems like Jason has to wait so damn long for a play to be called in. It seems like every third down he is waiving his arms up in the air waiting for a freaking play to be called in. Why hasn't the media asked Zorn about any of this? Or anything about his play calling?

Maybe its just me that notices this shit, but if I was seemingly that confused on the sideline I would probably look a little sick too.
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Re: Question about Coach Zorn

Zorn was a great addition! I think he has a very bright future here in DC!
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:34 PM   #12
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Im a little worried about the play calling. I love Moss and I think he is capable of losing any d-back in the NFL, but to throw the w.r. screen as much as we did on sunday scares me. That play works once maybe twice a game and it has alot to do with luck when it does work. Either Zorn doesnt have faith in Moss or Campbell to go down field. I also think Zorn is being a little too protective of J.C. Let him fling that ball around. Dont get me wrong I love what Zorn is doing with his technique. I just think we have to go down field a little bit more.
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Re: Question about Coach Zorn

I feel like I've said this a lot now, but the fact that the ball is not thrown long is often not because Zorn didn't call a long pass. If there's no time to throw, you can't hit the long stuff. Notice on the one shot we did take. What happened? Miracle of miracles, the pass pro held.

Once we're having pass pro troubles, throwing the screen is not a bad move: otherwise, one of your main playmakers never gets the ball at all.

I think he should have run Portis more in retrospect--I'm not sure he was really shut down in that game--but I can see wanting to throw against the cowroids secondary.
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Re: Question about Coach Zorn

I've been impressed with Zorn but wonder if he will be calling the plays next year. If the offense scoring production keeps going down continually he'll have to look himself in the mirror and bring in a new OC in 2009.
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I feel like I've said this a lot now, but the fact that the ball is not thrown long is often not because Zorn didn't call a long pass. If there's no time to throw, you can't hit the long stuff. Notice on the one shot we did take. What happened? Miracle of miracles, the pass pro held.

Once we're having pass pro troubles, throwing the screen is not a bad move: otherwise, one of your main playmakers never gets the ball at all.

I think he should have run Portis more in retrospect--I'm not sure he was really shut down in that game--but I can see wanting to throw against the cowroids secondary.


I see what your saying but the run sets up the pass. But if they are not goin down field and the other team knows we are run heavy then the db's are up on the w.r. making the screen impossible. Its obvious J.C. doesnt have to much faith in the other receivers. Maybe I should call the plays next year.
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