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Old 11-24-2008, 05:13 PM   #1
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This year is much different than 2005 or 2007. We're not in must win mode at this point as we were in those years. 3-2 in these last 5 games would likely get us in.

And other than the Giants and Titans, there are plenty of teams facing a playoff push right now. I don't see what the big deal is.
The NFC is much more competitive than it was in 2005 or 2007. For instance, a 9-7 record won't get us into the playoffs, unless a heck of a lot of teams loose.
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:05 AM   #2
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This year is much different than 2005 or 2007. We're not in must win mode at this point as we were in those years. 3-2 in these last 5 games would likely get us in.

And other than the Giants and Titans, there are plenty of teams facing a playoff push right now. I don't see what the big deal is.
Depends, though, on who we beat. 3-2 where we beat the Ravens, Bengals, and 49ers isn't getting us in. 3-2 where we beat the Giants, Eagles, and 49ers probably earns the 6th seed.

In most probabilities, it's going to take 11 wins this year. A 4 and 1 finish would keep us comfortably ahead of Dallas, and at least a game ahead of where the Falcons will end up.

3-2 puts is in a lot of nitty gritty tiebreakers for the 6th seed, and with the Cowboys, and Falcons planning on being right there, it doesn't seem all that likely to me that we could hold those tiebreakers.

Although, more optimistically, don't count out a total 1-4 collapse from Carolina, that would likely make our 10-6 record good enough. Tampa, Atlanta, and Dallas just aren't going away though.
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Old 11-24-2008, 12:42 PM   #3
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So once again we're dancing to the same "oh shit we have to make a playoff run" music that we have for the past two times that we did make the playoffs. And this is where games like vs. the Rams and Cowboys at home (winable games) come and bite us in the @ss. If we had won those two games, we'd be right behind the Giants and sitting well at 8-2, way ahead of all these other teams (except TB). Instead, we need to play for our lives for the next 5 games, barely holding on to the 6th seed.

Once again, I will gladly take my foot out of my mouth if the team proves me wrong, but nothing in the past three weeks tells me that this is a team that wants to go to the playoffs. And sadly, if we do, we'll be in the same situation as we've been before when we were bounced in the first or second round. Next week's game against the Giants we'll be the last true test of whether this team really has it in them to run the table and make the playoffs.
Did you forget that we won yesterday, or that we beat the Eagles and Cowboys on the road, or taht we beat the division leading Cardinals, or that we also beat two other conference opponents in the Lions (granted, everyone beats them) and Saints? The Rams and Cowboys at home (who by the way also lost to the Rams) aren't the only two games we played this year.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:01 AM   #4
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7-4 not bad. We're not an elite team right now. However, we're good enough to make it to the playoffs. We've got a good shot at it. We don't have to win 5 in a row like a couple years ago.

We'll see. If we can somehow get a win next week we'll be in excellent shape. Next week is one of those games we just need to win. Win ugly, win pretty...doesn't matter, just a win. We're due for a good home performance right?
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:55 AM   #5
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Re: Playoff Push

After reading this thread and some other negative stuff, I think this applies:

What were your expectations for JZ's first year as a Rookie head coach?
Have we made a good showing to date?
Beaten pre-season predictions?
Are we good enough to unseat the Giants? ....no, seriously

If you had been offered (before the season began) our current position in the standings with the games we have on the horizon to finish, you would have said Y/N?

We HAVE made a damn good showing with a realistic shot at the playoff's
S-bowl? realistically........not this year
Next year................maybe! I do expect to scare some people next year!
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:46 PM   #6
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After reading this thread and some other negative stuff, I think this applies:

What were your expectations for JZ's first year as a Rookie head coach?
Have we made a good showing to date?
Beaten pre-season predictions?
Are we good enough to unseat the Giants? ....no, seriously

If you had been offered (before the season began) our current position in the standings with the games we have on the horizon to finish, you would have said Y/N?

We HAVE made a damn good showing with a realistic shot at the playoff's
S-bowl? realistically........not this year
Next year................maybe! I do expect to scare some people next year!
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Sounds like you're making excuses. If you knock on the door and someone answers I expect you to make the sale regardless whether you're a rookie or not. Or as I tell my woman don't tease me, please me!
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:07 PM   #7
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Sounds like you're making excuses. If you knock on the door and someone answers I expect you to make the sale regardless whether you're a rookie or not. Or as I tell my woman don't tease me, please me!
I would suggest to you, your woman may have more experience than JZ, or is she a rookie as well?
Right now from JZ, I'm getting a little of both!
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:42 AM   #8
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Re: Playoff Push

I feel the same way the whole..." Whatever # in a row or we won't go" is getting old even if it's not quite at that point yet but we are getting close.

Angry- I totally agree with you. If our defense is supposed to be based off of run stopping then why weren't we able to stop the run? Maybe cause we game planned to defend the pass knowing Seatle is pass oriented and I think the announcers even said that, that Seatle is playing a chess game by running instead of passing. Also I could atleast count one O-linemen for Seatle holding on almost every run play. If not pulling on an arm they were pulling on the back of the jersey. On every kick off return I counted atleast one push from behind. The refs were not calling a lot of penalties. Apparently they were not calling any cause people wondered why Moss was not thrown out of the game for hitting the other player.

I know in little league and high school the ref's ask the coach's how they want the game called in reference to penalties so I wonder if the pro's do the same thing. Decide prior to the game if they want it called close or let the players play?

As for the Giants we need to pull a hat out of our bag. The defense has to play like the 8 games after the first time we played them. The offense needs to find its passing attack. I keep praying that Zorn is holding something back in order to use against the Giants....is it going to be Kelly?, Thomas?, Davis?.....the two TE sets? I just hope we pull a huge rabbit out of our hat and win the game.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:19 AM   #9
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Come on guys, we are in very good shape. Our D has held 8 of 11 teams under 20. The D plans around the other teams strength, and usually does a good to great job adjusting, the only notable exception was the Pitt game when Ben went out.
Our offense has to step up, but it is better than when we played the Giants the first time, so I think we will be good there too going down the stretch.
The only thing I absolutely agree with is that the Rams game really is going to be our Achilles heel this year, and I don't know if we can overcome it with all the other teams that are playing above par.

I REALLY wanted Carolina to win yesterday.
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:13 AM   #10
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Come on guys, we are in very good shape. Our D has held 8 of 11 teams under 20. The D plans around the other teams strength, and usually does a good to great job adjusting, the only notable exception was the Pitt game when Ben went out.
Our offense has to step up, but it is better than when we played the Giants the first time, so I think we will be good there too going down the stretch.
The only thing I absolutely agree with is that the Rams game really is going to be our Achilles heel this year, and I don't know if we can overcome it with all the other teams that are playing above par.

I REALLY wanted Carolina to win yesterday.

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Old 11-25-2008, 10:29 AM   #11
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Come on guys, we are in very good shape. Our D has held 8 of 11 teams under 20. The D plans around the other teams strength, and usually does a good to great job adjusting, the only notable exception was the Pitt game when Ben went out.
Our offense has to step up, but it is better than when we played the Giants the first time, so I think we will be good there too going down the stretch.
The only thing I absolutely agree with is that the Rams game really is going to be our Achilles heel this year, and I don't know if we can overcome it with all the other teams that are playing above par.

I REALLY wanted Carolina to win yesterday.
Of the 3 games win which we allowed more than 20pts we won 2 of those. Our D has done its job, we just need the O to score TDs when inside the redzone and make FGs that are normally made.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:35 AM   #12
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Re: Playoff Push

A win over either the Giants or Baltimore puts us in great position if we take care of business against Philly, Cincy, and SF. Our DBs dropped 4 INTs against Eli in week one, including a pick-6 by Rogers. We need to make EVERY opportunity count to have a chance against the G-men on Sunday.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:35 AM   #13
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10-6 will get some teams in but not all teams. If you want to guarantee yourself a playoff spot you need 11 wins. It looks like ATL might be going to the dance and there will only be one slot open for the rest of the conference.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:03 PM   #14
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we had a chance to win them all... except now the Ravens game has been flexed and moved to prime time so we are screwed there. LOL

Redskins-Ravens game moved to prime time - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:43 PM   #15
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we had a chance to win them all... except now the Ravens game has been flexed and moved to prime time so we are screwed there. LOL
Redskins-Ravens game moved to prime time - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Sure, we're 0-3 this year in prime time, but there is actually another way to look at this. The last time we had a game moved to prime time by way of flex scheduling, we rose to the occasion and dominated on the road (that would be the game against the Vikings last year). So let's just look at this as the table being set for us in identical fashion.
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