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Old 02-23-2009, 01:09 PM   #1
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The fact that he's only going to pay 65% of snaps is exactly why I would not spend the big bucks on him.
if he's only going to play 65% of the snaps, is it possible we could pay him 65% of the vet miniumum?

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If FAT **** KING is so sure of this story then why are we restructuring Griffin's contract?
were restructing his contract? when was this reported as news and not idle speculation by JLC? Also, King is not reporting this as fact. he's not claiming to be sure of anything. he's just speculating based on the fact that the two had dinner.
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:08 PM   #2
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Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

Has that been confirmed, that Griffin's contract is being restructured?
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:15 PM   #3
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I'm on the fence. but lets for fun say we did sign Haynesworth. (If we could;ie CAP) I would suspect he would not be needed on all 4 downs anyway. Most likely he would be used on the first 2 downs possibly the 3rd down to clog the middle and stop the run/ push the pocket. Cause double teams or mismatches. Which is what we want. I would figure on 4th down we would be expecting punt. So for the fun lets say we keep him in on 1st and 2nd to clog the middle. take him out on 3rd and put in a pash rushing Defense. If for any reason a team was on a 4th and 1 and decided to go for it he could come back in to clog the middle.

I really don't see any down side to his stepping in or stepping out of the field of play considering Blache changes people all the time in order to keep fresh legs on the field. Now the down sides would be injuries and age. Look at what we are paying Springs and more of you seem happy to keep him and let Rogers go. I can't figure that one out. If it can be done I would get Haynesworth to clog the middle and move Taylor to WLB and allow him to roam a little to create havoc.

I don't care what people think we all know teams would have to game plan around him. They would have to double team him freeing up other rushers and he would definitly push most pockets so the QB would not be able to step up. He would easily help our defense maybe even helping our secondary simply by applying pressure. The big question is if we are keeping Taylor can we go after and afford Haynesworth. I would bet Snyder was simply speaking with his agent about cost.
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:20 PM   #4
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Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

Don't want Haynesworth at all. I think it would be a huge mistake. Welcome to the team!
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:43 PM   #5
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Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

schneed, if this is the case, whats stopping teams like the redskins from signing players at a modest 2009 salary, and then paying out top dollar afterwards?
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schneed, if this is the case, whats stopping teams like the redskins from signing players at a modest 2009 salary, and then paying out top dollar afterwards?
The 30% Rule.

http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap...tml#post518062
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Nice prediction on Marcus being the first to go!
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Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

Let's just understand that if there is an uncapped year in 2010 there will be a lot more differences than simply no cap. This should help

Q and A about the NFL's upcoming uncapped season - Cincy Jungle
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Let's just understand that if there is an uncapped year in 2010 there will be a lot more differences than simply no cap. This should help

Q and A about the NFL's upcoming uncapped*season - Cincy Jungle
Ugh, football is going to turn into freaking baseball. Granted that we would be one of those teams with lots of money, so we will be able to get all the top players, but there will be no parity in the league. I can see small market teams like Buffalo, to turn into the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of football.
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Ugh, football is going to turn into freaking baseball. Granted that we would be one of those teams with lots of money, so we will be able to get all the top players, but there will be no parity in the league. I can see small market teams like Buffalo, to turn into the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of football.
You mean a small market team who puts together a talented young core good enough to beat out the high revenue Yankees and Red Sox on their way to a World Series appearance?

The notion that baseball doesn't have parity holds no water anymore. Recent World Series participants:

- Tampa Bay 2008
- Colorado 2007
- Detroit 2006
- Florida 2003

Do the A's and Twins not manage to make the playoffs on a semi-regular basis? Do the Florida Marlins not manage to hang with the Phillies and Mets each year?

The only low revenue team you can point to is the KC Royals. They're not bad because they don't spend money, they're bad because their organization sucks balls. They can't scout, they can't coach, and they can't draft.

If football ended up looking like baseball has (minus the roids!) in the last 10 years, the league would be doing real well for itself. Baseball is showing that salary caps (or the lack thereof) don't mean the end of your league as you know it.
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You mean a small market team who puts together a talented young core good enough to beat out the high revenue Yankees and Red Sox on their way to a World Series appearance?

The notion that baseball doesn't have parity holds no water anymore. Recent World Series participants:

- Tampa Bay 2008
- Colorado 2007
- Detroit 2006
- Florida 2003

Do the A's and Twins not manage to make the playoffs on a semi-regular basis? Do the Florida Marlins not manage to hang with the Phillies and Mets each year?

The only low revenue team you can point to is the KC Royals. They're not bad because they don't spend money, they're bad because their organization sucks balls. They can't scout, they can't coach, and they can't draft.

If football ended up looking like baseball has (minus the roids!) in the last 10 years, the league would be doing real well for itself. Baseball is showing that salary caps (or the lack thereof) don't mean the end of your league as you know it.
Sorry man, I don't know much about baseball and I guess my ignorance is shown by that comment. But being in the DC area with teams like the Orioles, who don't have a fighting chance in hell against the Sox and Yanks gives me this type of mentality.
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Sorry man, I don't know much about baseball and I guess my ignorance is shown by that comment. But being in the DC area with teams like the Orioles, who don't have a fighting chance in hell against the Sox and Yanks gives me this type of mentality.
The Orioles are just a shitty franchise. They don't successfully develop enough home-grown talent, and on the free agents they do acquire they miss big time (Miguel Tejada).
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:54 PM   #13
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lordy, i dont want this guy. period. sure he is a monster on the line, but lets not forget he only been like that for what the last two years? plus lets not forget that time when he steped on gurode with his cleat. I think he brings to much baggage, sooo no thank you move on.
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lordy, i dont want this guy. period. sure he is a monster on the line, but lets not forget he only been like that for what the last two years? plus lets not forget that time when he steped on gurode with his cleat. I think he brings to much baggage, sooo no thank you move on.

Wait a min. your going to fault a guy for stepping on a Cowboy? Apparently he fits right in with us. He hates the Cowboys as much as we do. LOL.

I find it more funny that after a player does some stupid act and pays his price people will talk about it like it happened yesterday and call it baggage. He does not have the same baggage as T.O. . T.O. acted like a 2yo all the way up to his trade and after. Then slammed his media gal for trying to spin the obvious. Then cried on tv. lol.

You put any individual over 300 pounds on the field and I challenge him to play 100 % all the time. The point is they can't. They have to push not only opponents around but their own weight also. Heck the Frigerator had to come out once and a while. They need a rest once and a while and our system/scheme is designed to allow players to trade in and out to have fresh legs.

Two things I worry about. Backloading contracts. After 2010 can Snyder pay up on all the backloaded contracts and be settled?

and his age. but he does buy us time to either look in the future for a replacement or get one now and have him help train him. I also don't want to give up too much to get him. In this situation he is a UFA so we won't have to give up a draft pick, but we will have to find a way to get him under this yrs CAP only. Pay off his bonuses next year and make him happy. Would he be willing to work with Snyder knowing we are tight on the budget this year and be willing to take a big contract next yr?
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You put any individual over 300 pounds on the field and I challenge him to play 100 % all the time. The point is they can't. They have to push not only opponents around but their own weight also. Heck the Frigerator had to come out once and a while. They need a rest once and a while and our system/scheme is designed to allow players to trade in and out to have fresh legs.
There are 300lb+ offensive lineman all over the place who play all 16 games.

Here's a guy who has had issues with effort/taking plays off his entire career, then suddenly in a contract year when he knows he can cement a fortune for himself, he decides to light it up. No coincedence IMO. Not that there's anything wrong with busting your ass for a payday, I just think he'll get lazy all over again once he signs his huge contract.
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