Wanted: Playmakers

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2009, 06:10 PM

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I don't understand the purpose of this thread.

to piss you off

SOUL-SKINS · 04-19-2009, 04:12 PM

GTripp, go easy.

SC Skins Fan · 04-19-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

GTripp, go easy.

GTripp, don't bother. How much more breath must be wasted here?

GTripp0012 · 04-19-2009, 04:14 PM

I'm not even going to respond to this. You can't have a playmakers post and not mention Anthony Mix. That's just crazy.

Lotus · 04-19-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not even going to respond to this. You can't have a playmakers post and not mention Anthony Mix. That's just crazy.

diehard · 04-19-2009, 04:45 PM

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Those three trophies as your avatar are starting to rust. I don't know about y'all but I'm tired of 'eating off' championships of yesteryear. I might as well root for DAL if I have to do that...

Lotus · 04-19-2009, 05:16 PM

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Those three trophies as your avatar are starting to rust. I don't know about y'all but I'm tired of 'eating off' championships of yesteryear. I might as well root for DAL if I have to do that...

You are right, they are starting to rust.

What was Gibbs' philosophy when we won them? AVOID TURNOVERS AT ALL COST. MAKE SURE YOU WIN THE TURNOVER BATTLE.

Because I want to win the Super Bowl, a wild gunslinger is the last person that I want to see under center.

diehard · 04-19-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not even going to respond to this. You can't have a playmakers post and not mention Anthony Mix. That's just crazy.

What else is there to say. We'll all have to wait and see. Most of you aren't still crying over Patrick Ramsey although he wasn't given a fair chance. And Campbell was always a better prospect than Ramsey.

Paintrain · 04-19-2009, 04:47 PM

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What else is there to say. We'll all have to wait and see. Most of you aren't still crying over Patrick Ramsey although he wasn't given a fair chance. And Campbell was always a better prospect than Ramsey.

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I too am warming up to the idea that if we want to get to the promise land it may take drafting Sanchez or probably giving Colt Brennan a shot.

Wow. Give Colt a shot AND Ramsey wasn't given a fair chance all in one thread. It's like I died and went to Redskins fan QB fantasy hell.

30gut · 04-19-2009, 04:42 PM

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A team can surely win with Jason Campbell or a Trent Dilfer but, you have to make sure other attributes of the team make up for the lack of risk taking.

Hey bro, superbowls are one by a TEAM not a QB.
You can't rob Peter to pay Paul in the NFL and expect to win.
Going after a Cutler or Sanchez might improve the QB.*
But giving up what it would take to get them would surely weaken other areas of the team.

I personally don't think Cutler would have been a sure-fire improvement over Campbell. If you project the trend of Campbell's play in his 1st year with Zorn to Cutler's 3rd year with Shanahan i think the numbers would be similiar and you have to factor in the defenses in the NFC East and the AFC West.

skinsfan69 · 04-19-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Moss? Check.
Cooley? Check.
Randle El (now known as Santonio Holmes)? Check.
Jason Campbell? Hmmm.

I too am warming up to the idea that if we want to get to the promise land it may take drafting Sanchez or probably giving Colt Brennan a shot. Why? It's no secret that Campbell has had a lot of instablility as far a OCs go but, look at his game. Even at Auburn his impressive W-L record and national championship title was helped much by a strong defense and running game (Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown). This reveals Campbell strengths. He does a great job making safe reads and takes very few chances with the football. The Skins have had a top 5 defense for most of the years he's started and a very effective running game so, we can afford to be more risky in that regard. Also, even though we have had great defenses, we are not one that have a lot of takeaways, or points off of, as the 2000 Ravens did. And before you say the WR corps was the culprit, Moss, Randle El, and Cooley are better than Cutler's Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal, and Daniel Graham/Tony Sheffler. I believe Cutler's big numbers are a result of his ability to let it fly (watch what he does in CHI under his new OC and former FA bust Brandon Lloyd and REL-like Devin Hester). Something Campbell doesn't risk doing often. That's why Jay Cutler or a Brett Farve will have a eye-popping number of INTs to go with thier impressive TD stats. Who's to argue that Farve isn't a winner? A franchise QB? A team can surely win with Jason Campbell or a Trent Dilfer but, you have to make sure other attributes of the team make up for the lack of risk taking.

I'd have to strongly disagree here. Marshall is better than Moss. Is there really even an argument over that? Royal is hands down already a better wr than ARE. He had some monster games as a rookie. I don't know his numbers but he was near 100 catches. ARE has never even caught 60. Cooley is better than Tony S. But TE's don't have the same impact as top flight wr's do.

diehard · 04-19-2009, 04:48 PM

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I'd have to strongly disagree here. Marshall is better than Moss. Is there really even an argument over that? Royal is hands down already a better wr than ARE. He had some monster games as a rookie. I don't know his numbers but he was near 100 catches. ARE has never even caught 60. Cooley is better than Tony S. But TE's don't have the same impact as top flight wr's do.

Compare Devin Thomas to Eddie Royal... both were rookie WRs last year.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2009, 04:49 PM

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Compare Devin Thomas to Eddie Royal... both were rookies last year.

exception that proves the rule, Compare Ryan Leaf to Peyton Manning both were rookies at the same time.

Lotus · 04-19-2009, 05:21 PM

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Compare Devin Thomas to Eddie Royal... both were rookie WRs last year.

In 2008 Royal caught 91 balls for 980 yards and 5 scores.

In 7 seasons Randle El has never achieved that many catches, those yards, or that many scores in one season.

Rookie or not, Royal wins hands-down.

diehard · 04-19-2009, 05:46 PM

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In 2008 Royal caught 91 balls for 980 yards and 5 scores.

In 7 seasons Randle El has never achieved that many catches, those yards, or that many scores in one season.

Rookie or not, Royal wins hands-down.

Let's see Royal's production with Orton? No defending Marshall huh? He'll have his fair share of balls behind bars sooner or later.

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