Do You think Betts is Expendable?

SmootSmack · 04-28-2009, 05:07 PM

I don't know that he's expendable really. He still can be a valuable asset to the team. I do think that sooner than later we're going to have to start looking to the future. I wish we would have spent one of our later round picks on a RB (let him play teams for a year if necessary). Not a change of pace back, but a guy who could be a 15-20 carries a game back within a couple of years

vallin21 · 04-28-2009, 05:22 PM

Betts is only expendable if we find someone better or equal to Betts's ability. If we traded him our RB position would immediatley become a weakness, given that we have unproductive (Cartwright) or unproven RB's (Aldrige, Dorsey). So to answer your question, no I don't think Betts is expendable. We need him more than he needs us.

firstdown · 04-28-2009, 05:17 PM

They gave him 4.6 rushes a game this year and its hard to get something going if you do not get a feel for the game and thats hard to do with so few runs. When he signed his new deal I thought they would work him into the games more than they have. I have never seen him and Portis on the field at the same time and you would think they could design something with them together.

GTripp0012 · 04-28-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

They gave him 4.6 rushes a game this year and its hard to get something going if you do not get a feel for the game and thats hard to do with so few runs. When he signed his new deal I thought they would work him into the games more than they have. I have never seen him and Portis on the field at the same time and you would think they could design something with them together.

Gibbs used to use them together all the time in 2005, but that was more to cover for a WR deficiency.

Zorn got them both into the game together a few times at the beginning of the season, and it was kinda fun for awhile, but when Betts got hurt and missed that month, Zorn forget to use him altogether. Thus, expendable.

GTripp0012 · 04-28-2009, 05:39 PM

Betts is quite expendable. I just don't see anyone we like on the current 84-man enough to make me think he doesn't have the No. 2 RB role again this year.

I think if we are going to make a deep playoff run, we'll find a way to add a really talented guy (not unlike Lorenzo Booker with the Eagles last year, except hopefully with a little more size) who is better than Betts.

hooskins · 04-28-2009, 05:46 PM

Now we have the legendary Marcus Mason he sure is...

89moss89 · 04-28-2009, 05:49 PM

I was kinda kicking this idea around in my head today. I worry that the Eagles and Giants have really upgraded alot this offseason and the Redskins finished behind these teams last season so it is going to be tougher this year. The Redskins have signed Haynesworth and drafted Orakpo and I think that will help alot but I don't think that it is enough to win out over the other 3 teams in the division (maybe the Cowboys because I think they took a few steps backward). I think the Redskins have to do more so this is my unqualified attempt to make them better. First they need a lb and I think they should go to Marcus Washington agent and attempt to resign him, if he doesn't want to come back tell them they are going to check out Leroy Hill and maybe Washington will realize that he doesn't have alot of options and will resign cheap. I think that is the only weak link left to fill on defense so thay need to turn to the offense now. I would like for the Redskins to make an offer to Levi Jones when he is cut by the Bengals to fill the hole at RT if it is cost efective. Now to the Ladell Betts part. I can't beleive that I'm saying this because I'm not a huge fan of his anticts but I wonder if the Bengals would trade Chad Johnson to the Redskins for Betts,Thomas or Kelly & a conditional 3rd round draft pick. Marvin Lewis always went after former Redskins when they were cut because he coached here and the Bengals have a need at RB. If Betts were traded I would look into the health of Duece Mcallister who is old but hasn't played alot the last few years because he was injured. The Saints released him early and I haven't heard of any intrest in him from other teams so maybe he isn't healthy i'm not sure though. It may be laughable but those were my thoughts today.

Redskin Jim · 04-28-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 89moss89

I was kinda kicking this idea around in my head today. I worry that the Eagles and Giants have really upgraded alot this offseason and the Redskins finished behind these teams last season so it is going to be tougher this year. The Redskins have signed Haynesworth and drafted Orakpo and I think that will help alot but I don't think that it is enough to win out over the other 3 teams in the division (maybe the Cowboys because I think they took a few steps backward). I think the Redskins have to do more so this is my unqualified attempt to make them better. First they need a lb and I think they should go to Marcus Washington agent and attempt to resign him, if he doesn't want to come back tell them they are going to check out Leroy Hill and maybe Washington will realize that he doesn't have alot of options and will resign cheap. I think that is the only weak link left to fill on defense so thay need to turn to the offense now. I would like for the Redskins to make an offer to Levi Jones when he is cut by the Bengals to fill the hole at RT if it is cost efective. Now to the Ladell Betts part. I can't beleive that I'm saying this because I'm not a huge fan of his anticts but I wonder if the Bengals would trade Chad Johnson to the Redskins for Betts,Thomas or Kelly & a conditional 3rd round draft pick. Marvin Lewis always went after former Redskins when they were cut because he coached here and the Bengals have a need at RB. If Betts were traded I would look into the health of Duece Mcallister who is old but hasn't played alot the last few years because he was injured. The Saints released him early and I haven't heard of any intrest in him from other teams so maybe he isn't healthy i'm not sure though. It may be laughable but those were my thoughts today.

The Deuce is done my friend. Betts is way better these days. But, I do believe that sooner than later we will need to find a replacement for Betts(1-2yrs), who in turn would eventually (1-2yrs)after replacing Betts as #2, would replace Portis as the #1 back. Remember Betts is 30, Portis 27 going on 28 THIS SEASON.

GTripp0012 · 04-28-2009, 07:06 PM

Edgerrin James released. He's not going to get any play with the Colts drafting Donald Brown, so maybe we could re-visit this in June.

NYCskinfan82 · 04-28-2009, 07:22 PM

I say cut him he's been several years and he hasn't pushed CP, we need a 2nd RB that is going to challenge CP if you can't do that you need to go in my opinion.

The Goat · 04-28-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

I say cut him he's been several years and he hasn't pushed CP, we need a 2nd RB that is going to challenge CP if you can't do that you need to go in my opinion.

Sorry but "push CP"

Really? I can count all of two backs in the whole league who could be said to "push" CP...but then i tend to think that's a lousy comparison even because Peterson and Turner both run behind vastly superior lines.

Superman13732 · 04-28-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Sorry but "push CP"

Really? I can count all of two backs in the whole league who could be said to "push" CP...but then i tend to think that's a lousy comparison even because Peterson and Turner both run behind vastly superior lines.

Amen, CP has been good for us, but take a look at his stats from his Bronco days behind thier insane line (it was insane back then, any runner that was behind it had over a thousand yards). If we can get a a couple of more pieces on that line, watch out world.

takethecake · 04-28-2009, 09:56 PM

What about the new "TE" the skins drafted, Eddie Williams? I know it's early to envision him doing anything like spelling Portis, but what do you think the FO had in mind when they drafted him (I'm thinking Sellers back-up)? Assuming he makes the team, perhaps he'd end up being good for some tough up-the-gut carries, although we'd need to bulk him up by 20 lbs or so. Depending on how he, Dorsey and Aldridge do in camp, we'll know exactly how much leeway we have with Rock and Betts, and if one of those guys can step up, I think that would be great for the team. As much as I love Rock (always see him and Smoot at caps games), I don't know how much he helps our team on the field.

jsarno · 04-28-2009, 08:46 PM

Simple answer...yes. Just about everyone is expendable.

Superman13732 · 04-28-2009, 10:03 PM

Two Fb formation like the ravins. I think sellers can be McClain from last year, all we need is another big body in front of him to play the FB spot, and we can decimate the opposing team's front 4, and possibly LB squads, taking some much needed pressure off of the OL.

04-28-2009, 05:17 PM	#3
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? They gave him 4.6 rushes a game this year and its hard to get something going if you do not get a feel for the game and thats hard to do with so few runs. When he signed his new deal I thought they would work him into the games more than they have. I have never seen him and Portis on the field at the same time and you would think they could design something with them together.

04-28-2009, 05:39 PM	#5
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? Betts is quite expendable. I just don't see anyone we like on the current 84-man enough to make me think he doesn't have the No. 2 RB role again this year. I think if we are going to make a deep playoff run, we'll find a way to add a really talented guy (not unlike Lorenzo Booker with the Eagles last year, except hopefully with a little more size) who is better than Betts. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

04-28-2009, 05:46 PM	#6
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? Now we have the legendary Marcus Mason he sure is... __________________ Vacancy

04-28-2009, 05:49 PM	#7
89moss89 Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PENNSYLVANIA Age: 57 Posts: 29	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? I was kinda kicking this idea around in my head today. I worry that the Eagles and Giants have really upgraded alot this offseason and the Redskins finished behind these teams last season so it is going to be tougher this year. The Redskins have signed Haynesworth and drafted Orakpo and I think that will help alot but I don't think that it is enough to win out over the other 3 teams in the division (maybe the Cowboys because I think they took a few steps backward). I think the Redskins have to do more so this is my unqualified attempt to make them better. First they need a lb and I think they should go to Marcus Washington agent and attempt to resign him, if he doesn't want to come back tell them they are going to check out Leroy Hill and maybe Washington will realize that he doesn't have alot of options and will resign cheap. I think that is the only weak link left to fill on defense so thay need to turn to the offense now. I would like for the Redskins to make an offer to Levi Jones when he is cut by the Bengals to fill the hole at RT if it is cost efective. Now to the Ladell Betts part. I can't beleive that I'm saying this because I'm not a huge fan of his anticts but I wonder if the Bengals would trade Chad Johnson to the Redskins for Betts,Thomas or Kelly & a conditional 3rd round draft pick. Marvin Lewis always went after former Redskins when they were cut because he coached here and the Bengals have a need at RB. If Betts were traded I would look into the health of Duece Mcallister who is old but hasn't played alot the last few years because he was injured. The Saints released him early and I haven't heard of any intrest in him from other teams so maybe he isn't healthy i'm not sure though. It may be laughable but those were my thoughts today.

04-28-2009, 07:06 PM	#9
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? Edgerrin James released. He's not going to get any play with the Colts drafting Donald Brown, so maybe we could re-visit this in June. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation. Last edited by GTripp0012; 04-28-2009 at 07:21 PM.

04-28-2009, 05:07 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? I don't know that he's expendable really. He still can be a valuable asset to the team. I do think that sooner than later we're going to have to start looking to the future. I wish we would have spent one of our later round picks on a RB (let him play teams for a year if necessary). Not a change of pace back, but a guy who could be a 15-20 carries a game back within a couple of years __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-28-2009, 05:22 PM	#2
vallin21 The Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,180	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? Betts is only expendable if we find someone better or equal to Betts's ability. If we traded him our RB position would immediatley become a weakness, given that we have unproductive (Cartwright) or unproven RB's (Aldrige, Dorsey). So to answer your question, no I don't think Betts is expendable. We need him more than he needs us.

04-28-2009, 07:22 PM	#10
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 56 Posts: 3,803	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? I say cut him he's been several years and he hasn't pushed CP, we need a 2nd RB that is going to challenge CP if you can't do that you need to go in my opinion.

04-28-2009, 09:56 PM	#13
takethecake Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 37 Posts: 281	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? What about the new "TE" the skins drafted, Eddie Williams? I know it's early to envision him doing anything like spelling Portis, but what do you think the FO had in mind when they drafted him (I'm thinking Sellers back-up)? Assuming he makes the team, perhaps he'd end up being good for some tough up-the-gut carries, although we'd need to bulk him up by 20 lbs or so. Depending on how he, Dorsey and Aldridge do in camp, we'll know exactly how much leeway we have with Rock and Betts, and if one of those guys can step up, I think that would be great for the team. As much as I love Rock (always see him and Smoot at caps games), I don't know how much he helps our team on the field.

04-28-2009, 08:46 PM	#14
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? Simple answer...yes. Just about everyone is expendable. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

04-28-2009, 10:03 PM	#15
Superman13732 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Binghamton NY Posts: 163	Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable? Two Fb formation like the ravins. I think sellers can be McClain from last year, all we need is another big body in front of him to play the FB spot, and we can decimate the opposing team's front 4, and possibly LB squads, taking some much needed pressure off of the OL.

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