Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone...

SBXVII · 05-17-2009, 11:20 PM

It's amazing the faith people have in Buges. I do believe Williams was a 1st round pick. I know he's heavy but he's only like 15 to 20 pounds heavier then his playing weight of a coulple of yrs ago. I know he's been out but I think Buges can get him back to using good technique and I bet he starts at RT no matter what his weight is.

We also picked up Bridges who actually started all last season. He's good enough to either be used at Guard or RT. Honestly we have significantly upgrades one of the weakest spots.

Then we have Heyer who was the starter last yr until he got hurt. He did admirably in the few games he played.

Then there's Jansen. Although he's not my number one choice at RT anymore he can fill in and if he gets his mojo back and plays lights out then start him. The only problem is I think he showed he sucks at pass blocking but is one heck of a run blocker. Heyer is more of a pass blocker but sucks at run blocking. Now if Heyer can get his technique down and show he can do the job then I bet he starts.

In other words ...no need to contact the Jags just yet. Wait for camp and hope theres no injuries, if there is contact the Jags.

The Goat · 05-17-2009, 11:29 PM

Yep, pick up the phone and call Marcus Washington. Offer a bit more than vet min to get him back in the fold.

53Fan · 05-17-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Yep, pick up the phone and call Marcus Washington. Offer a bit more than vet min to get him back in the fold.

I'll agree to that. Right now for the first time in a lonnng time, we have some competition at RT. I would consider strongside LB to be a bigger concern. I would rather see Orakpo getting experience playing against NFL caliber OT's than trying to learn a new position. If Marcus were here, I don't think there would be as much interest in Orakpo at SAM because the need wouldn't be there. Williams would prefer to play RT and Heyer has said he's gonna fight his guts out for that spot. I think the competition with the guys we already have on the o-line is gonna lead to improvement this year. I would not give up any high picks. If we can get a really good deal on someone who is much better than who we already have, than I'd go for it, but only if he is much better.

ChickenMonkey · 05-18-2009, 02:51 AM

I agree on the Marcus Washinton front, but I love the fact that we have so much competition at the RT and the OLB position. If theres 3-4 guys fighting for the spot, then weve got depth behind whom ever wins. I dont see a problem with having 3 other RT's behind Heyer if he gets injured(aka 2008's OL)..Or Blades,Wilson,and Fincher pushing Orakpo for the SAM spot...I love the freakin competition...We dont need no stinkin trade.....Best man wins HOORAH

johno · 05-18-2009, 07:43 AM

i think its important to consider getting someone young for the line. either of those guys taken by seattle in the draft could bolster the line for the next few years, instead of more stop gap measures like giving washington more than the vet minimum for another year. it is great that we have lots of competition at rt, but how long will any one of those guys be around?

freddyg12 · 05-18-2009, 08:36 AM

I wouldn't include Tra thomas in any discussion as a potential skin. He was a FA & the FO had their chance at him. He's old & I think he's an insurance policy for the Jags.

What J'ville did is very similar to our draft/fa strategy, just at a different position. We loaded up on D, particularly OLB, they loaded up at OT. Considering the FO didn't like the o linemen available when they picked, I think to this point they've done a decent job of getting a couple potential starters into camp. Unless some crazy deal fell in their lap, I don't see any trades on the horizon this year. Of course, an injury on day 1 of camp could change that in a heartbeat.

SC Skins Fan · 05-18-2009, 09:26 AM

Jax won't be trading one of the guys they just drafted. They just signed Thomas and he will at least provide them with depth (which they were sorely lacking last season) and will likely start while they are getting the young guys ready. So I think from that group maybe you would say Pashos would be available, and I don't know anything about the guy, but I am going to go out on a limb and say he is not an upgrade over the guys already on the Skins roster. He would just be another body. I don't see the point.

Sure I'd take Eugene Monroe, but the Jags just drafted him in the top 10 so why would they possibly trade him? And what are you going to give up exactly? So no, I would not make the call.

Dirtbag59 · 05-18-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Jax won't be trading one of the guys they just drafted. They just signed Thomas and he will at least provide them with depth (which they were sorely lacking last season) and will likely start while they are getting the young guys ready. So I think from that group maybe you would say Pashos would be available, and I don't know anything about the guy, but I am going to go out on a limb and say he is not an upgrade over the guys already on the Skins roster. He would just be another body. I don't see the point.

Sure I'd take Eugene Monroe, but the Jags just drafted him in the top 10 so why would they possibly trade him? And what are you going to give up exactly? So no, I would not make the call.

If we traded a first round pick for Britton then we could pry him away but thats obviously a kings ransom for a second round pick. Anyway thats the only way I could see Jacksonville would trade at least one of their first two picks.

I don't get all the hype about Devin Clark but apparently the coaches are high on him so I'll give him a chance. I still say thought that Mike Williams is the guy at RT this year and with Heyer and a developed Rhinehart on the bench we might have good depth for the first time in a while. The only thing that scares me is the backup Center position. At this point they probably have Cory Raymer on speed dial

FRPLG · 05-18-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

If we traded a first round pick for Britton then we could pry him away but thats obviously a kings ransom for a second round pick. Anyway thats the only way I could see Jacksonville would trade at least one of their first two picks.

I don't get all the hype about Devin Clark but apparently the coaches are high on him so I'll give him a chance. I still say thought that Mike Williams is the guy at RT this year and with Heyer and a developed Rhinehart on the bench we might have good depth for the first time in a while. The only thing that scares me is the backup Center position. At this point they probably have Cory Raymer on speed dial

Our backup center is going to be Jansen. I'd bet he's better than Rabach already. Jansen's major issues are in pass protection and footwork. Inside he could be as solid as anyone at. At least we'd be getting something out of him.

53Fan · 05-18-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Our backup center is going to be Jansen. I'd bet he's better than Rabach already. Jansen's major issues are in pass protection and footwork. Inside he could be as solid as anyone at. At least we'd be getting something out of him.

I would love to see Jansen take the center position. Rabach as a backup would make for less worries at center. Heyer should step-up this year and if not, maybe Williams takes the RT spot. Hopefully Rinehart can back Thomas up in case of injury. Plus we have Bridges. Clark backing up Samuels is a little scary but it sounds like Buges is pleased with his progress. All in all I think we see an improvement over last year.

JoeRedskin · 05-18-2009, 09:40 AM

Pashos used to play for the Ravens who chose to let him go as an UFA last year. He's a solid pro. Should we trade for him? Naw. As others have said, we had a shot at Thomas and chose not to pursue him. The draft picks are not going to get traded except at premium (i.e. higher pick value than they were chosen). If Pashos gets cut, we can look at him as a FA. Otherwise, just leave the phone on the hook.

53Fan · 05-18-2009, 10:28 AM

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Zerohero · 05-18-2009, 04:00 PM

Keep da picks!!!!

CRedskinsRule · 05-18-2009, 10:49 AM

My biggest scare is a backup LT. If D Clark is able to go that will be great, but I don't know anybody else out there. I still would not mind seeing Levi Jones brought in, but I know the FO is holding its wallet tighter right now. Really want to see MW re-signed.

The Goat · 05-18-2009, 11:41 AM

I thought Heyer was our backup LT essentially? Clark got his ass handed to him last year when he stepped in. Anyway that's the situation that scares me...if Samuels goes down the line falls apart. I like GTripp's idea...grab Levi Jones for a backup since we don't know about Samuels health going into the season. Probably takes a good chunk of our cap space to get it done but IMO it's worth it.

Anyway...Heyer is no longer backup LT or what?

05-17-2009, 11:20 PM	#1
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... It's amazing the faith people have in Buges. I do believe Williams was a 1st round pick. I know he's heavy but he's only like 15 to 20 pounds heavier then his playing weight of a coulple of yrs ago. I know he's been out but I think Buges can get him back to using good technique and I bet he starts at RT no matter what his weight is. We also picked up Bridges who actually started all last season. He's good enough to either be used at Guard or RT. Honestly we have significantly upgrades one of the weakest spots. Then we have Heyer who was the starter last yr until he got hurt. He did admirably in the few games he played. Then there's Jansen. Although he's not my number one choice at RT anymore he can fill in and if he gets his mojo back and plays lights out then start him. The only problem is I think he showed he sucks at pass blocking but is one heck of a run blocker. Heyer is more of a pass blocker but sucks at run blocking. Now if Heyer can get his technique down and show he can do the job then I bet he starts. In other words ...no need to contact the Jags just yet. Wait for camp and hope theres no injuries, if there is contact the Jags.

05-17-2009, 11:29 PM	#2
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... Yep, pick up the phone and call Marcus Washington. Offer a bit more than vet min to get him back in the fold. __________________ 24-34

05-18-2009, 02:51 AM	#4
ChickenMonkey Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ontario,Ca Age: 52 Posts: 274	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... I agree on the Marcus Washinton front, but I love the fact that we have so much competition at the RT and the OLB position. If theres 3-4 guys fighting for the spot, then weve got depth behind whom ever wins. I dont see a problem with having 3 other RT's behind Heyer if he gets injured(aka 2008's OL)..Or Blades,Wilson,and Fincher pushing Orakpo for the SAM spot...I love the freakin competition...We dont need no stinkin trade.....Best man wins HOORAH

05-18-2009, 07:43 AM	#5
johno Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest, DC Posts: 599	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... i think its important to consider getting someone young for the line. either of those guys taken by seattle in the draft could bolster the line for the next few years, instead of more stop gap measures like giving washington more than the vet minimum for another year. it is great that we have lots of competition at rt, but how long will any one of those guys be around? __________________ fight for old dc.

05-18-2009, 08:36 AM	#6
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... I wouldn't include Tra thomas in any discussion as a potential skin. He was a FA & the FO had their chance at him. He's old & I think he's an insurance policy for the Jags. What J'ville did is very similar to our draft/fa strategy, just at a different position. We loaded up on D, particularly OLB, they loaded up at OT. Considering the FO didn't like the o linemen available when they picked, I think to this point they've done a decent job of getting a couple potential starters into camp. Unless some crazy deal fell in their lap, I don't see any trades on the horizon this year. Of course, an injury on day 1 of camp could change that in a heartbeat.

05-18-2009, 09:26 AM	#7
SC Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,555	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... Jax won't be trading one of the guys they just drafted. They just signed Thomas and he will at least provide them with depth (which they were sorely lacking last season) and will likely start while they are getting the young guys ready. So I think from that group maybe you would say Pashos would be available, and I don't know anything about the guy, but I am going to go out on a limb and say he is not an upgrade over the guys already on the Skins roster. He would just be another body. I don't see the point. Sure I'd take Eugene Monroe, but the Jags just drafted him in the top 10 so why would they possibly trade him? And what are you going to give up exactly? So no, I would not make the call. __________________ It has taken a long time, but I have finally realized that nothing I say about the Redskins will have any effect upon anything the Redskins do.

05-18-2009, 09:40 AM	#11
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... Pashos used to play for the Ravens who chose to let him go as an UFA last year. He's a solid pro. Should we trade for him? Naw. As others have said, we had a shot at Thomas and chose not to pursue him. The draft picks are not going to get traded except at premium (i.e. higher pick value than they were chosen). If Pashos gets cut, we can look at him as a FA. Otherwise, just leave the phone on the hook. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

05-18-2009, 10:28 AM	#12
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... Hopefuls finally fall in line - Washington Times __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

05-18-2009, 04:00 PM	#13
Zerohero Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: phoenix, az Age: 46 Posts: 901	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... Keep da picks!!!!

05-18-2009, 10:49 AM	#14
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,698	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... My biggest scare is a backup LT. If D Clark is able to go that will be great, but I don't know anybody else out there. I still would not mind seeing Levi Jones brought in, but I know the FO is holding its wallet tighter right now. Really want to see MW re-signed.

05-18-2009, 11:41 AM	#15
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Should the Skins' FO pick up the phone... I thought Heyer was our backup LT essentially? Clark got his ass handed to him last year when he stepped in. Anyway that's the situation that scares me...if Samuels goes down the line falls apart. I like GTripp's idea...grab Levi Jones for a backup since we don't know about Samuels health going into the season. Probably takes a good chunk of our cap space to get it done but IMO it's worth it. Anyway...Heyer is no longer backup LT or what? __________________ 24-34

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