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Old 06-24-2009, 12:52 PM   #1
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Re: John Clayton on the Redskins' Playoff Chances

honestly i cant remember the last time the skins O put up more than 20 ppg. every year we have a solid bend dont break defense and an offense that fails to stretch the field. i see next years O and D being the same as last years and the year before and the year before etc.

we basically have the same O unit. while the rookies are a year older now so are samuels, rabach, thomas, moss, portis. this unit has been together long enough to know what they are going to give us = approx 16-18 ppg.

im proud that we are a defensive team, just gave up hope on this offensive unit (JC, moss, portis) doing anything electric or game breaking.

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Old 06-24-2009, 03:08 PM   #2
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honestly i cant remember the last time the skins O put up more than 20 ppg.
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20.9 PPG

2007 Washington Redskins Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:29 PM   #3
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That was also playing the last 14 games minus our RG & RT. In 05 we had 22 PPG .
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:42 PM   #4
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Snap!!! Nice stat too btw...
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honestly i cant remember the last time the skins O put up more than 20 ppg. every year we have a solid bend dont break defense and an offense that fails to stretch the field. i see next years O and D being the same as last years and the year before and the year before etc.

we basically have the same O unit. while the rookies are a year older now so are samuels, rabach, thomas, moss, portis. this unit has been together long enough to know what they are going to give us = approx 16-18 ppg.

im proud that we are a defensive team, just gave up hope on this offensive unit (JC, moss, portis) doing anything electric or game breaking.

go skins!!
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:29 PM   #6
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Alzthiemers is a bitch ain't it mountain?
lol yeah i forgot. no sarcasim thoo, i hope we can return to 20.9 ppg and ranking 18th in scoring next year like clayton's article suggests.

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Suisham needs to step his game up. He needs to make FG's from 40 and in with regularity and not kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs. How many times did he do that last year? Too many!
Ideally, we need to score more TD's and maybe we will in Zorn's second year. I'm sure the players are more comfortable in his system and he's more comfortable running the show (I wasn't impressed with his game management last year) so scoring 5 more points is very attainable IMO.
The defense should be solid though hopefully we'll force more turnovers which will give us a shorter field.
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Suisham needs to step his game up. He needs to make FG's from 40 and in with regularity and not kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs. How many times did he do that last year? Too many!
Ideally, we need to score more TD's and maybe we will in Zorn's second year. I'm sure the players are more comfortable in his system and he's more comfortable running the show (I wasn't impressed with his game management last year) so scoring 5 more points is very attainable IMO.
The defense should be solid though hopefully we'll force more turnovers which will give us a shorter field.
Hopefully Suisham gets beat out. He really has turned into a liability. Let him figure out his problems on some other team's time.
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Hopefully Suisham gets beat out. He really has turned into a liability. Let him figure out his problems on some other team's time.
Careful, that's matty's favorite player! LOL.

Seriously, it all falls on Campbell's shoulders. When he's on, we win, when he's not, we don't. Granted it's not that cut and dry, but it's close. I get tired of seeing him complete 3 or 4 in row just to miss on the next 3 or 4 in a row. Consistency young man!!! Stop overthrowing your deeper WR's. Can't do slants all year. We have a playoff caliber team, no doubt about it, but do we have a playoff caliber QB? Portis is old enough where we can't rely on him. He doesn't break the big ones anymore, but he is certainly a very good all around back...we need Campbell to step up.
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I agree, JC needs to step up, but thing is J, we really didn't help him out in the offseason or the draft. Orakpo was a great pick up, as was Haynesworth, but our D was solid last year. We just didn't score the damn points!!!! The Offensive line should have been upgraded with FA and the draft. I know we had all low rounders this year, but we should have at least drafted a couple O linemen and see if we could get a diamond in the rough or at least a decent backup for depth's sake. I know we got Dockery back, but that isn't much of an upgrade if you ask me. Don't know enough about Williams to make a statement about him. Just hope and pray that Kelly doesnt become our next Taylor Jacobs, and that at least two of these young WRs pan out.
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I agree, JC needs to step up, but thing is J, we really didn't help him out in the offseason or the draft. Orakpo was a great pick up, as was Haynesworth, but our D was solid last year. We just didn't score the damn points!!!! The Offensive line should have been upgraded with FA and the draft. I know we had all low rounders this year, but we should have at least drafted a couple O linemen and see if we could get a diamond in the rough or at least a decent backup for depth's sake. I know we got Dockery back, but that isn't much of an upgrade if you ask me. Don't know enough about Williams to make a statement about him. Just hope and pray that Kelly doesnt become our next Taylor Jacobs, and that at least two of these young WRs pan out.
I absolutely disagree about Dock...he's an upgrade, and a valuable addition. Williams could be, but i think we are more on the hope side of that one. Other than that, I understand. We do have the ingredients though...we have the people to perform like we did in the first 8 games last year. Just need Campbell to improve (which I do expect).
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I agree, JC needs to step up, but thing is J, we really didn't help him out in the offseason or the draft. Orakpo was a great pick up, as was Haynesworth, but our D was solid last year. We just didn't score the damn points!!!! The Offensive line should have been upgraded with FA and the draft. I know we had all low rounders this year, but we should have at least drafted a couple O linemen and see if we could get a diamond in the rough or at least a decent backup for depth's sake. I know we got Dockery back, but that isn't much of an upgrade if you ask me. Don't know enough about Williams to make a statement about him. Just hope and pray that Kelly doesnt become our next Taylor Jacobs, and that at least two of these young WRs pan out.
I think that we went with more immediate impact players this year.. guys that can get on the field from the start, Orakpo and possibly Barnes. Will give us a year to evaluate Rinehart and the other young guys. Might put us into position to get more of an impact guy next year on the OL. That and we do seem to have the mentality of "if our line could just stay healthy we won't have any problems" as well.
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Suisham needs to step his game up. He needs to make FG's from 40 and in with regularity and not kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs. How many times did he do that last year? Too many!
Ideally, we need to score more TD's and maybe we will in Zorn's second year. I'm sure the players are more comfortable in his system and he's more comfortable running the show (I wasn't impressed with his game management last year) so scoring 5 more points is very attainable IMO.
The defense should be solid though hopefully we'll force more turnovers which will give us a shorter field.
I thought Suisham turned a corner as a reliable kicker for the first 8-9 games last season, but his kickoffs were noticeably shorter the 2nd half, and he missed crucial field goals during that stretch as well. I wish we had signed Sam Swank out of Wake Forest to compete for the job. I'm pretty sure that Philly signed Swank to push Akers for the starting job there.
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In the second year of the WC offense,things will click a little faster and sharper.Which,hopefully produces more yards per play in the passing game.
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In the second year of the WC offense,things will click a little faster and sharper.Which,hopefully produces more yards per play in the passing game.
I'm waiting to see how much of the spread formation - 4 wrs, empty backfield - is used v. 2 TEs or the I. Seems that when Zorn tried to go to the spread sets last year JC got killed.

If they can run 4 wr plays effectively then it's a sign this offense has improved by leaps & bounds.
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