Portis and Cooley Calling Out an Offensive Teammate?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Coff

I read Portis's comment differently; he was just saying that the fumble was the difference in the game, not that it was Campbell's fault.

Cooley seems to be suggesting that other players are not doing what they should be. Is this okay? Well, it depends. Sometimes a comment like that can fire up other players, sometimes it can piss them off. It really comes down to how respected the individual is who said it, and in this case we know this shouldn't be a problem as Cooley is a respected player on the team. Nevertheless, I'd rather he make the comment behind closed doors, which he very well may have.

Well, the fumble/TD was obviously campbells fault. I understand how the comments could be taken generally - Portis did say that they all made some mistakes. However, given the fact that Campbell played horribly and Moss is known to take plays off at times, kind of makes me think there are some specific players who are being called out. If thats the case, Kudos for Portis for actually displaying some tact and not publically throwing the guy(s) under the bus.

If its just an issue of guys taking plays off, this problem is easily correctable - the guys need to stop taking plays off. I'm personally hoping Campbell just had a bad game for whatever reason. He certainly looked better during the 1st 8 games last year than he did in this game - when his protection was better than its ever been in Washington. We have seen him play better before, so we know he can do it

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Well, the fumble/TD was obviously campbells fault. I understand how the comments could be taken generally - Portis did say that they all made some mistakes. However, given the fact that Campbell played horribly and Moss is known to take plays off at times, kind of makes me think there are some specific players who are being called out. If thats the case, Kudos for Portis for actually displaying some tact and not publically throwing the guy(s) under the bus.

If its just an issue of guys taking plays off, this problem is easily correctable - the guys need to stop taking plays off. I'm personally hoping Campbell just had a bad game for whatever reason. He certainly looked better during the 1st 8 games last year than he did in this game - when his protection was better than its ever been in Washington. We have seen him play better before, so we know he can do it

What game was you watching he wasn't fantastic but horribly in my opinion is to strong of a word. I also don't think they were calling anyone person out i think they were talking about the team. You must be a JC hater.

[Njall]

Originally Posted by Coff

I read Portis's comment differently; he was just saying that the fumble was the difference in the game, not that it was Campbell's fault.

Cooley seems to be suggesting that other players are not doing what they should be. Is this okay? Well, it depends. Sometimes a comment like that can fire up other players, sometimes it can piss them off. It really comes down to how respected the individual is who said it, and in this case we know this shouldn't be a problem as Cooley is a respected player on the team. Nevertheless, I'd rather he make the comment behind closed doors, which he very well may have.

Campbell should have stepped up in the pocket. Mistake well one of his many in the game.

[Trample the Elderly]

Sorry for being a downer. I just hate the effing Giants and that Cross-Eyed Mary QB. It's not fair. He can look strait ahead and see the whole damn field; It's like that she-he runner from Africa.

Eff the Giants and eff the Rams too. I hope we kill those miserable bastards!

[gibbsisgod]

Move it along....nothing to see here.

I just don't understand. Portis uses the word WE at least 10 times in that quote. In the paragraph above the one you qouted, the author makes a point to say that Portis was given ample opportunity to call out someone and didn't do it. So how do you go from that to Portis and Cooley call out someone?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Move it along....nothing to see here.

I just don't understand. Portis uses the word WE at least 10 times in that quote. In the paragraph above the one you qouted, the author makes a point to say that Portis was given ample opportunity to call out someone and didn't do it. So how do you go from that to Portis and Cooley call out someone?

Great post

[CRedskinsRule]

Cooley's comments seem to speak of confidence in the playcalling, and ability of the team in a general fan like environment. The key is, and we have yet to see it, making it manifest itself in a game day environment. I am hopeful that these next few weeks we demonstrate what Cooley is speaking of.

[warriorzpath]

I think Cooley may be saying in a subtle way that someone is not doing their job, but his comments are very vague - so it's not clear if he is.

One thing that I get from the both of them is - Zorn had a talk with the offense about focusing on their own individual play and assignments.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I think Cooley may be saying in a subtle way that someone is not doing their job, but his comments are very vague - so it's not clear if he is.

One thing that I get from the both of them is - Zorn had a talk with the offense about focusing on their own individual play and assignments.

Its obvious that Cooley and Portis took Zorns words to heart - here's to hoping that the player(s) who were the primary culprits did as well.

[Daseal]

I couldn't agree more with the statement that "they could blow anyone out". They just need to start using all 7 receivers (5 WR, 2 TE) and if they do their job there's just no stopping. I would love to see that.

I'd hope we blow them out if we're starting 13 on offense.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I'd hope we blow them out if we're starting 13 on offense.

I didn't say start them all at the same time. Use them in rotation around the game.

[Longtimefan]

Sounded like normal locker room chatter about what they could do, should do, can do, or refuse to get done. Speaking of blowing people out, they have to first demonstrate they can score twenty one points a game, and even then, that score would hardly be on the way to blowing anybody out.

Further, they're going to continue to hear the fans voice their negative aproval until they can demonstrate (on a consistent basis) they can go out and do all these things they say they SHOULD be doing. Talking is cheap and easy, the fans want to see results, and until they do the criticizm will continue. They say we don't know, and we don't understand......well some of us may not understand this "rocket science" they call football, but we do know and understand what we see, and all too often what we see is not pretty and leaves a lot to be desired. THEY say they're going to be better. We're waiting.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Sounded like normal locker room chatter about what they could do, should do, can do, or refuse to get done. Speaking of blowing people out, they have to first demonstrate they can score twenty one points a game, and even then, that score would hardly be on the way to blowing anybody out.

Further, they're going to continue to hear the fans voice their negative aproval until they can demonstrate (on a consistent basis) they can go out and do all these things they say they SHOULD be doing. Talking is cheap and easy, the fans want to see results, and until they do the criticizm will continue. They say we don't know, and we don't understand......well some of us may not understand this "rocket science" they call football, but we do know and understand what we see, and all too often what we see is not pretty and leaves a lot to be desired. THEY say they're going to be better. We're waiting.

Ya know your 100% correct. I'm almost missing Norv Turner at this point. He atleast got us to the play offs frequently. It's a crying shame when I'm starting to think that way.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ya know your 100% correct. I'm almost missing Norv Turner at this point. He atleast got us to the play offs frequently. It's a crying shame when I'm starting to think that way.

You and I must have different definitions of "frequently"

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You and I must have different definitions of "frequently"

Didn't look it up. I stand corrected, but even though we went only 1 time in 7 yrs it still seemed like the team did better then it has the last few yrs. Back then it seemed like we only needed on piece to the puzzle. We would get one piece and lose another. After last Sun. it just feels to me like we have deficiencies all over the place. It didn't look like an ok team taking advantage of our weak spot, they took advantage of our weak...spots.

I have always been the "it's ok we an fix this one thing, or we can fix that one thing, or don't worry we'll be great next yr cause all they need is a QB or something like that. I know it's only one game. I understand I should not panick, and I'm not. What I am, is tired of hearing how close we are when were not. I'll say again that if this team turns out an 8-8 season or less, I would not have any bad feeling about DS letting everyone go. Any one from staff to players. Keep the young players get rid of all the players close to 30y/o. Bring in a bunch of no names for half the cost and drop the ticket prices and hope for the same results or better. Atleast we would have a young team, healthy team, and less costly team.

They say you get what you pay for. The fans have been paying, Snyder is paying and we keep getting the same shitty results. The fans are paying with their ticket prices and parking and DS is paying the players for Mercades and all we keep getting is volkswagon. If we are going to get volkswagon quality then we might as well pay for a volkswagon cause for the last 10+ yrs we have not been getting the Mercades Benz we have been paying for.

I still think their pay should be performance based. The team does well they get paid full price, they lose it drops a %. If they make a mistake during the game they lose another % of their salary. Who would judge it I'm not sure but maybe if the players had something to lose or gain by studing and not making mistakes then maybe they would try harder. Study harder.