Defensive Review: Giants

[JWsleep]

Great stuff again. Thanks Tripp!

[KI Skins Fan]

Let's see if I got this straight. In the offensive review, our resident experts tell us that Zorn was outcoached by the Giants' DC and, in the defensive review, they tell us that Blache was outcoached by the Giants' OC. Meanwhile, we're picking apart every mistake the players make.

If it's true that we were outcoached on both sides of the ball, let's hope that doesn't become a trend because, if the coaches can't put the players in positions where they are likely to succeed, we won't have a snowball's chance of making the playoffs.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Let's see if I got this straight. In the offensive review, our resident experts tell us that Zorn was outcoached by the Giants' DC and, in the defensive review, they tell us that Blache was outcoached by the Giants' OC. Meanwhile, we're picking apart every mistake the players make.

If it's true that we were outcoached on both sides of the ball, let's hope that doesn't become a trend because, if the coaches can't put the players in positions where they are likely to succeed, we won't have a snowball's chance of making the playoffs.

I get what you're saying...I don't think we're gettng out-coached on O. I think our coaching staff is so scared of pressure that it has really inhibited their play-calling. They need to just grow a set and start calling plays without concern for protection. We can either protect and run a good offense or we can hide in a shell and run a crap offense. Hiding in a shell wins us 10 games tops if everything works out perfectly (a good defense, adequate teams and some luck on O).

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I get what you're saying...I don't think we're gettng out-coached on O. I think our coaching staff is so scared of pressure that it has really inhibited their play-calling. They need to just grow a set and start calling plays without concern for protection. We can either protect and run a good offense or we can hide in a shell and run a crap offense. Hiding in a shell wins us 10 games tops if everything works out perfectly (a good defense, adequate teams and some luck on O).

I don't think Blache necessarily got outcoached on Sunday either. There were bad calls, yes, but I thought he got out-Blached by Kevin Gilbride (Giants O Coordinator). He called a lot of plays into our defensive strengths, and despite having automatic completions out on the field, they were only 6/12 on converting third downs.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't think Blache necessarily got outcoached on Sunday either. There were bad calls, yes, but I thought he got out-Blached by Kevin Gilbride (Giants O Coordinator). He called a lot of plays into our defensive strengths, and despite having automatic completions out on the field, they were only 6/12 on converting third downs.

Allowing 50% on 3rd down conversion is poor. For Week 1 nfl.com has us at #25 at 46% (6/13). For the 2008 season, average teams were at 39-40%, 46% would put us at #29-30 in last years regular season standings in this category.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Allowing 50% on 3rd down conversion is poor. For Week 1 nfl.com has us at #25 at 46% (6/13). For the 2008 season, average teams were at 39-40%, 46% would put us at #29-30 in last years regular season standings in this category.

I saw somewhere that our defense had the highest percentage of 3 and outs in the NFL, or something like that. Just thought I would throw that in there

[Njall]

The 4-3 is best i believe against the run. Especially with a 330 DT like Hworth...

[GTripp0012]

We only had 10 offensive possessions, and in that, 2 turnovers is certainly not good, but the Giants only had EIGHT offensive possessions, and two ended in turnovers, one in a turnover on downs, with four scoring drives and a single punt. Turning the ball over on 25% of drives is completely inexcusable. Even 20% (for us) was pretty bad.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We only had 10 offensive possessions, and in that, 2 turnovers is certainly not good, but the Giants only had EIGHT offensive possessions, and two ended in turnovers, one in a turnover on downs, with four scoring drives and a single punt. Turning the ball over on 25% of drives is completely inexcusable. Even 20% (for us) was pretty bad.

I felt like our defense just couldn't get itself off the field a few too many times. Hence the only 8 possessions for the Gints. They had a few long time-consuming drives I think that took possessions away from our offense and killed field position, again limiting what we could do on offense. I really felt our D had a big hand in the lack of offense.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I felt like our defense just couldn't get itself off the field a few too many times. Hence the only 8 possessions for the Gints. They had a few long time-consuming drives I think that took possessions away from our offense and killed field position, again limiting what we could do on offense. I really felt our D had a big hand in the lack of offense.

Prepare to defend yourself against completely backwards logic like: "it's because the offense sucks."

"Because the offense sucks...the defense can't get off the field?"

"No, the defense is tired because the offense sucks"

"But, that doesn't even make sense. I was talking about how the Giants had such an obsurdly low number of possessions. That has nothing to do with the offense."

"Campbell is the problem."

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Prepare to defend yourself against completely backwards logic like: "it's because the offense sucks."

"Because the offense sucks...the defense can't get off the field?"

"No, the defense is tired because the offense sucks"

"But, that doesn't even make sense. I was talking about how the Giants had such an obsurdly low number of possessions. That has nothing to do with the offense."

"Campbell is the problem."

All of which are ridiculous points when we know the real problem is "We have a racist nickname"

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

All of which are ridiculous points when we know the real problem is "We have a racist nickname"

Exactly! If it's an air attack you want, then we should be the Washington Rockets.

Our primitive defensive scheme is clearly a function of our nickname.