Slingin Sammy 33's - Bucs Game Review

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

Ok Semi-Pro thats kool . Not sure if they get paid the big bucks to coach and play Semi-Pro football. If he has alot of time on his hands he should submit a resume to VC/DS as a offense consultant. It appears he has alot of the answers to why CP and JC are not playing well.

Dude you are kinda a dick.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I find it hilarious that you are trying to tell CP a legitmate HOF RB how to run.

CP is stumbling, correct? It's a problem, correct? As far as telling him how to run, I'm just saying for him to stay on his feet until some legit contact.

As far as JC observations you made , I guess it is much easier to sit back and watch replays of the game at slow speed to tell us what JC did wrong. If you have played the QB position in the NFL then your observations may carry some weight, but if your a weekend warrior on the couch than I would not read into to much of what you observed.

My background is irrelevant. The analysis is either good or it's not. By your logic, the only folks who can comment on a QB's play are folks who have played QB in the NFL. That effectively eliminates over 95% of the sports media. If you think the review is garbage, don't read the thread.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

CP is stumbling, correct? It's a problem, correct? As far as telling him how to run, I'm just saying for him to stay on his feet until some legit contact.

My background is irrelevant. The analysis is either good or it's not. By your logic, the only folks who can comment on a QB's play are folks who have played QB in the NFL. That effectively eliminates over 95% of the sports media. If you think the review is garbage, don't read the thread.

I'm w/Sammy on this. Great job of analyzing the details that are so hard to watch on tv as the game is played. Your analysis of JC kinda scares me; I've been defending him for the most part, but I agree it seems he's regressing in some ways in a year he should be in top form.

As for having to be a pro to analyze the pros; how many great players have been either terrible coaches or analysts themselves? Lots. Just because someone played the game, doesn't mean they have the ability to disect the details & articulate the nuances. Just listen to some of these guys talk!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Your analysis of JC kinda scares me; I've been defending him for the most part, but I agree it seems he's regressing in some ways in a year he should be in top form.

We're on the same page. I've been a strong advocate of JC's and to see these things happening was unexpected to me and very concerning. Hopefully with some help from Lewis/Zorn he can get back on track over the next 3 games.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

We're on the same page. I've been a strong advocate of JC's and to see these things happening was unexpected to me and very concerning. Hopefully with some help from Lewis/Zorn he can get back on track over the next 3 games.

I didn't see anything in the Tampa game that suggested a regression. Rather, that my expectations for his future might have simply been out of whack.

I saw a lot of inaccurate passes. Underthrown balls, balls thrown behind receivers specifically. I did not see a plethora of bad reads. One or two maybe, but that's standard risk, every quarterback every game. The difference here was the bad decision rate for Campbell was higher than normal, because he didn't throw as much. But I'm guessing that's just a sample size issue.

[htownskinfan]

great analysis
Portis has been doing the stumbling routine for a while now,theres a lot of times where he looks like hes going to tip over from leaning so far forward.Portis did surprise me Sunday though with some of the best moves ive seen him put on people in a long time.
Nothing you wrote about JC is surprising,it doesnt take a genius to realize hes not that good.Lets hope that next week all of the sudden he gets it and everything starts clicking

[tryfuhl]

3 man DL vs Bucs on 3 3rd downs, we stopped all of them

thoughts?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

3 man DL vs Bucs on 3 3rd downs, we stopped all of them

thoughts?

As long as Blache continues bringing LBs/DBs up to the line to confuse the OL, changes DL fronts, disguises coverages, and brings heat I'm all for it. I believe one of those 3rd down stops was Tryon running down Johnson from the backside on a CB blitz. Good stuff.

I was really happy to see Blache mix things up and give the young guys the opportunity to show what they can do also.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

As long as Blache continues bringing LBs/DBs up to the line to confuse the OL, changes DL fronts, disguises coverages, and brings heat I'm all for it. I believe one of those 3rd down stops was Tryon running down Johnson from the backside on a CB blitz. Good stuff.

I was really happy to see Blache mix things up and give the young guys the opportunity to show what they can do also.

You're right, make that 4 3rd downs I believe

lot of people here saying we don't have the personnel and its only trendy, I had a subtle reason for asking

I plan on re-watchin the game tonight to catch some stuff

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

You're right, make that 4 3rd downs I believe

lot of people here saying we don't have the personnel and its only trendy, I had a subtle reason for asking

I plan on re-watchin the game tonight to catch some stuff

If you're looking at it from the point of a 3-4 vs 4-3 discussion, I believe what you'll see is a Prevent look, then a delayed blitz on the first one. On the second the D brought 7 up to the LoS, and brought 6. The thrid one was also a delayed blitz, similar to the first. I think I missed one in the second half though. The last stop was near the GL when Tryon made the tackle on Johnson.

I'd have to go back and look at personnel, but I think it was either Nickel or Cobra on each.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If you're looking at it from the point of a 3-4 vs 4-3 discussion, I believe what you'll see is a Prevent look, then a delayed blitz on the first one. On the second the D brought 7 up to the LoS, and brought 6. The thrid one was also a delayed blitz, similar to the first. I think I missed one in the second half though. The last stop was near the GL when Tryon made the tackle on Johnson.

I'd have to go back and look at personnel, but I think it was either Nickel or Cobra on each.

I have: Nickel on the Hall INT, Nickel on the Rogers pass breakup, 3-2 dime on the Fletcher sack/tackle, Nickel on the failed Johnson scramble attempt, Dime on the first down completion with Doughty/Hall closing, and Nickel on the Tryon stop of Johnson's scramble near the GL.

So the only consistent there are Orakpo at DL, Tryon at NB, and no Smoot. That third one is key.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If you're looking at it from the point of a 3-4 vs 4-3 discussion, I believe what you'll see is a Prevent look, then a delayed blitz on the first one. On the second the D brought 7 up to the LoS, and brought 6. The thrid one was also a delayed blitz, similar to the first. I think I missed one in the second half though. The last stop was near the GL when Tryon made the tackle on Johnson.

I'd have to go back and look at personnel, but I think it was either Nickel or Cobra on each.

good memory, I couldn't remember a single one other than the front haha

been awhile since I've been out of football, even campbell makes his reads quicker than me it seems

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

As long as Blache continues bringing LBs/DBs up to the line to confuse the OL, changes DL fronts, disguises coverages, and brings heat I'm all for it. I believe one of those 3rd down stops was Tryon running down Johnson from the backside on a CB blitz. Good stuff.

I was really happy to see Blache mix things up and give the young guys the opportunity to show what they can do also.

And it would really help if the League would let the Skins play the pathetic Bucs every week:vomit:

[dan_snyder69]

good write up ss33

[hooskins]

Just an FYI I think the Landry penalty was not called. They threw the flag but took it back because landry changed his position last second.

Also why dont you just call Cooley, Cooley lol. Good stuff otherwise.