Some Optimism from a Pessimist - The Skins CAN Reclaim Greatness

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Here's the problem with the Redskins. We're always trying to toss a band-aid on our problems rather than really getting dirty and doing a few unpopular things. Every year we sign a new FA or two to bolster a weak area. What this does is keeps us a mediocre team. One thing almost all the above mentioned teams did, was go through a rebuilding process. Get young guys, let them build some chemistry together, and continue on -- the Redskins have yet to ever rebuild, at least in the classical sense of rebuilding.

In my opinion, this group has been given a very fair shot -- it's time to decide who the building blocks of this team are, and start putting young talent around them. The Redskins, up to this point, have had the easiest schedule in the NFL hands down, and we've barely managed two wins. That's pathetic and shows deep deep problems. What on earth makes you think we'll all of a sudden get it against better competition.

Blow it up, rebuild for a few years, and come back stronger than ever.

I agree!
We have to get young across the board. We need more team speed and quality athletes.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by jamf

I agree!
We have to get young across the board. We need more team speed and quality athletes.

I haven't checked it out but I heard someone on WPL say that our 53 man roster at the beginning of the year was the oldest in the league.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I haven't checked it out but I heard someone on WPL say that our 53 man roster at the beginning of the year was the oldest in the league.

I have heard that a number of times as well, but then Theisman goes on the air each week talking about how the Skins are a young team that needs patience. I think they are an old team. Maybe time for a youth movement.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I haven't checked it out but I heard someone on WPL say that our 53 man roster at the beginning of the year was the oldest in the league.

Having these guys doesn't help team age and all can be purged next year (except Fletcher and Smith):

Wynn
Daniels
Griffin
Fletcher (love him, but he's getting up there)
Collins
Rabach
Samuels (might be done for good)
Thomas
Albright
Yoder
Hunter Smith

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Having these guys doesn't help team age and all can be purged next year (except Fletcher and Smith):

Wynn
Daniels
Griffin
Fletcher (love him, but he's getting up there)
Collins
Rabach
Samuels (might be done for good)
Thomas
Albright
Yoder
Hunter Smith

Agree with all but Fletcher (he can STILL do it) and Hunter Smith even being on the list. How can you put Hunter Smith on the list? He's the best punter we've had since Turk and Roby. Yes, he's hurt right now but he will be back and solid again. Look how bad our punting game is without him. He's not THAT old...punters can go into their late 40s.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Here's the problem with the Redskins. We're always trying to toss a band-aid on our problems rather than really getting dirty and doing a few unpopular things. Every year we sign a new FA or two to bolster a weak area. What this does is keeps us a mediocre team. One thing almost all the above mentioned teams did, was go through a rebuilding process. Get young guys, let them build some chemistry together, and continue on -- the Redskins have yet to ever rebuild, at least in the classical sense of rebuilding.

In my opinion, this group has been given a very fair shot -- it's time to decide who the building blocks of this team are, and start putting young talent around them. The Redskins, up to this point, have had the easiest schedule in the NFL hands down, and we've barely managed two wins. That's pathetic and shows deep deep problems. What on earth makes you think we'll all of a sudden get it against better competition.

Blow it up, rebuild for a few years, and come back stronger than ever.

Exactly. Each year we add a new piece to the puzzle hoping that this is the final combination that will take us to the next level. Instead of building a foundation, we just put on new additions. If it doesn't work, we'll try a new addition. If that doesn't work, just add another. Then another. Then another. On and on it goes.

[Beemnseven]

The thing is, sometimes rebuilding happens whether management wants it to or not. Problem is -- and this has been said before -- if it's Snyderatto doing the rebuilding, this team is going nowhere.

You just know our first pick next year will be a quarterback...

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The thing is, sometimes rebuilding happens whether management wants it to or not. Problem is -- and this has been said before -- if it's Snyderatto doing the rebuilding, this team is going nowhere.

You just know our first pick next year will be a quarterback...

"The creator has a master plan", and if includes one/or both of them let the laughter begin.

[47FAN]

i think a return to greatness is possible in a short amount of time(2 years?) and just maybe dan can get a new coach and gm and finally sit back and just be a fan and watch football and write checks?

[joethiesmanfan]

All players are regressing. Got to b the coach, our run o was the best foundation to build from for long term success. We sold out to get a passing game we had santana. We no longer can run still don't have a passing game still got santana.

Ultimately my conclusion is to fix the redskins fix the run game. Zorn's route combinations make alot more sense when our run game is dictating the defenses formations.

[Dogtag]

Isn't the definition of insanity - doing the same thing multiple times and expecting a different outcome each time?

[44Deezel]

Building blocks: Turnaround teams usually turn tackles
Building blocks: Turnaround teams usually turn tackles


When general managers are quizzed about rebuilding a franchise most respond in terms that refer to the construction of a house. They frequently cite the need to "build a strong foundation" to steady the project and that adage often follows them into the war room when it is time to select the players to orchestrate a dramatic turnaround.

Whereas most observers would point to the quarterback as the key to a franchise's revival, recent history is showing that the offensive tackle position is playing a prominent role in the restoration process.

While many credited the sudden turnarounds of Miami, Baltimore and Atlanta to their installation of new quarterbacks, it is not a coincidence that the trio also featured three young offensive tackles (Jared Gaither, Ravens; Sam Baker, Falcons and Jake Long, Dolphins) excelling as first-time starters. In addition, the Carolina Panthers' 12-4 season was keyed by the stellar play of Jeff Otah on the edges.

Given the instant success of those players, and the fact that 12 offensive tackles have been taken in the first round of the past two drafts, scouts are beating the bushes to find another dominant edge blocker on the horizon. Fortunately, this year's draft class features a host of talented offensive tackles that scouts project to make immediate impacts as pros.

Oklahoma State's Russell Okung and Oklahoma's Trent Williams are currently viewed as the gems of the class, but they are joined by Southern California's Charles Brown, Notre Dame's Sam Young and LSU's Ciron Black as potential first-round picks in a draft that could produce as many as six first-round offensive tackles when all is said and done.

With several franchises on the verge of being blown up in the offseason, general managers may opt to grab a hard hat and an offensive tackle to start the rebuilding.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Building blocks: Turnaround teams usually turn tackles
Building blocks: Turnaround teams usually turn tackles


When general managers are quizzed about rebuilding a franchise most respond in terms that refer to the construction of a house. They frequently cite the need to "build a strong foundation" to steady the project and that adage often follows them into the war room when it is time to select the players to orchestrate a dramatic turnaround.

Whereas most observers would point to the quarterback as the key to a franchise's revival, recent history is showing that the offensive tackle position is playing a prominent role in the restoration process.

While many credited the sudden turnarounds of Miami, Baltimore and Atlanta to their installation of new quarterbacks, it is not a coincidence that the trio also featured three young offensive tackles (Jared Gaither, Ravens; Sam Baker, Falcons and Jake Long, Dolphins) excelling as first-time starters. In addition, the Carolina Panthers' 12-4 season was keyed by the stellar play of Jeff Otah on the edges.

Given the instant success of those players, and the fact that 12 offensive tackles have been taken in the first round of the past two drafts, scouts are beating the bushes to find another dominant edge blocker on the horizon. Fortunately, this year's draft class features a host of talented offensive tackles that scouts project to make immediate impacts as pros.

Oklahoma State's Russell Okung and Oklahoma's Trent Williams are currently viewed as the gems of the class, but they are joined by Southern California's Charles Brown, Notre Dame's Sam Young and LSU's Ciron Black as potential first-round picks in a draft that could produce as many as six first-round offensive tackles when all is said and done.

With several franchises on the verge of being blown up in the offseason, general managers may opt to grab a hard hat and an offensive tackle to start the rebuilding.

Do the Skins have anyone worth a first round pick? Would be nice if they could snag a QB AND Tackle in the first round... assuming they don't resign JC. I'm starting to think they might though.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Do the Skins have anyone worth a first round pick? Would be nice if they could snag a QB AND Tackle in the first round... assuming they don't resign JC. I'm starting to think they might though.

I would trade down and go for 2 OL in the 1st and 2nd (if able to trade down) just like Jacksonville did this year.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Do the Skins have anyone worth a first round pick? Would be nice if they could snag a QB AND Tackle in the first round... assuming they don't resign JC. I'm starting to think they might though.

I've thought about this too -- the only player I can think of who might be worth a 1st rounder is Chris Cooley. Could we live w/o Cooley if it meant getting two first round picks to go after a tackle and QB or two good O-linemen?

That might be a good poll question...