As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I actually wouldn't have a problem at all if we went with Betts as the #1 and Rock as the #2 next year. Neither are long term options though and we need to start thinking about that.

I'm eating a lot of crow here, I like what Betts and Rock have done in the last 2 or 3 games when they have been relied upon to move the ball. I especially like them on the field together. If we went rebuild mode I wouldn't have a problem keeping them until we found a viable replacement. Maybe it's Ganther maybe it's not but it would give the team time to aquire someone. In the past I have not liked either Betts or Rock but the good news is they don't have the wear and tear that Portis has and I don't see the need to bring in someone elses broken down backs who have a lot of miles on them.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm eating a lot of crow here, I like what Betts and Rock have done in the last 2 or 3 games when they have been relied upon to move the ball. I especially like them on the field together. If we went rebuild mode I wouldn't have a problem keeping them until we found a viable replacement. Maybe it's Ganther maybe it's not but it would give the team time to aquire someone. In the past I have not liked either Betts or Rock but the good news is they don't have the wear and tear that Portis has and I don't see the need to bring in someone elses broken down backs who have a lot of miles on them.

We might win a few games down the stretch because of performance by Betts and Rock, but they'll be 31 and 30 respectively next year, so we can't get roped into thinking the RB situation is okay.

They'll probably look very good down the stretch in relief of Ports, but we need to make RB a priority in the draft.

[celts32]

No...RB is one of the easiest positions to fill with a draft pick. They need young players not more older guys with injury history. Brown is not that old but he has had injury problems.

[Schneed10]

We probably can't get him. He falls into the same category as Campbell and Rogers, draftees with 4-5 years of NFL experience. Even though their contracts will be up, the expiring CBA and uncapped season limits their ability to become unrestricted free agents.

Any player with less than 6 years experience remains the exclusive rights of the team that drafted him. So the Dolphins will be the only team who can negotiate with him. He can only leave if the Dolphins decide they don't want him.

Same for the Redskins with Campbell and Rogers. They can't go negotiating with other teams unless we let them.

[FRPLG]

No. The days of RBs being important enough to commit major resources to are over. He's oldish, been injured and plays the easiest plug and play position in football. Plus his "amazingness" could be attributed to the gimmick offense they run.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No. The days of RBs being important enough to commit major resources to are over. He's oldish, been injured and plays the easiest plug and play position in football. Plus his "amazingness" could be attributed to the gimmick offense they run.

Of course, his career (half) season came in 2007 on a terrible team with no offensive line and a basic offensive scheme.

Ronnie Brown is probably the best RB in the league right now (even if Chris Johnson is the top big play back in the league..and not to slight Peterson, Gore, or Jackson), but this is two out of three years that he hasn't been able to play in the second half of the season. In my mind, that's the knock on him.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

No. The days of RBs being important enough to commit major resources to are over. He's oldish, been injured and plays the easiest plug and play position in football. Plus his "amazingness" could be attributed to the gimmick offense they run.

Excellent point, but let's hope Lil' Danny and Vinny agree -- those two bozos are about five years behind the times as it is.

[Carnage]

I agree that Brown has had too many injuries. Check out ATL's Jerrious Norwood. He is an explosive player that has been bulking up. Could be the next Turner like guy. They should try hard to keep him, but if he hits the market he could be an asset for years.
Also, with regards to quality free agents, LT Marcus McNeil, G Chris Snee, Sean Merrimon, and Julius Peppers are all hitting the market next year. It would not surprise me if the Danny gives several FAs front loaded contracts during an uncapped season.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Carnage

I agree that Brown has had too many injuries. Check out ATL's Jerrious Norwood. He is an explosive player that has been bulking up. Could be the next Turner like guy. They should try hard to keep him, but if he hits the market he could be an asset for years.
Also, with regards to quality free agents, LT Marcus McNeil, G Chris Snee, Sean Merrimon, and Julius Peppers are all hitting the market next year. It would not surprise me if the Danny gives several FAs front loaded contracts during an uncapped season.

Is Norwood back active yet?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Carnage

I agree that Brown has had too many injuries. Check out ATL's Jerrious Norwood. He is an explosive player that has been bulking up. Could be the next Turner like guy. They should try hard to keep him, but if he hits the market he could be an asset for years.
Also, with regards to quality free agents, LT Marcus McNeil, G Chris Snee, Sean Merrimon, and Julius Peppers are all hitting the market next year. It would not surprise me if the Danny gives several FAs front loaded contracts during an uncapped season.

As long as Coughlin is coach of the Giants Snee will be there, he is his son-in-law.

[SmootSmack]

I'd like for us to spend our 4th round pick on someone like Anthony Dixon or Hardesty from Tennessee

[RobH4413]

I was just thinking...

For years, we've all been saying "Invest in the draft, stop trading our draft pics, we need to build our team from the ground up" etc. etc.

What if right now is the worst time to be investing in the draft. With an uncapped year potentially approaching. How valuable will the draft be to a team that has potentially unlimited resources?

I'm curious to the implications, even with the new FA rules, that this might have on the value of the draft itself. Anyone have any insight into this.

[RobH4413]

2010: An uncapped year odyssey

grabbed this off a thread Schneed had started a little while back.

and quoting Schneed as well.

"The same forces working to keep Campbell and Rogers with the team will be at play all throughout the league, restricting the mobility of 4th and 5th year players whose contracts are due to expire. In an uncapped year, we should expect free agency to be thin. So while Dan Snyder would have his checkbook ready and willing to instantly improve the roster, he probably won't find many players worthy of a big payday. In an uncapped world, the draft takes on even greater importance."

So... under my understanding. Free agency will not be very valuable at first, but over time as more and more contracts expire, players will be able to test the market? This shits kinda confusing. Anyone want to take a shot at clarifying this for me?


edit:

found this Chris Samuels thread. Good info.

Originally Posted by Bill B

If there is no cap than as many have said the rules get changed a little - here is the big rule change:

Rules for an uncapped year — including a requirement that players need six seasons rather than four to become unrestricted free agents — would take effect in March, a year before the CBA expires. Teams also wouldn't have to spend to the salary minimum or fund player benefits.

So in effect many of the free agents will have 2 more years of mileage on them making them even more risky - remember the average lifespan of an NFL player is between 3-4 years - so if you are now signing up a bunch of players with 6 years experience you are pushing the envelope.

In my opinion is we go uncapped it would be even more reason that you go to building your team via the draft and the Skins need to get the best GM and front office money can buy. Simply thinking the free agency route will be the easy way to go will become even more of a outdated and incorrect model for building a consistent winner.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

2010: An uncapped year odyssey

grabbed this off a thread Schneed had started a little while back.

and quoting Schneed as well.

So... under my understanding. Free agency will not be very valuable at first, but over time as more and more contracts expire, players will be able to test the market? This shits kinda confusing. Anyone want to take a shot at clarifying this for me?


edit:

found this Chris Samuels thread. Good info.

The uncapped year might not have many big names out there, but I would guess there will be a no. of starter quality vets that want to get paid & get playing time. It might allow the danny to invest in some affordable quality vets the way the pats do, and the way denver did this year. He would be able to pay those guys more & bring them in.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

RB is not something we should address with a high draft pick until we have a SOLID, established, offensive line. If nothing else, we can go with a RB by committee game in 2010 with Betts getting most of the carries.