Redskins Won't Franchise Smoot

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by offiss

I don't know why everyone is assuming we will lose Smoot? As if someone else is going to break the bank for him, we are not the only team in the NFL who think's Smoot is a good corner but not a franchise type corner, who is going to give Smoot the kind of signing bonus he want's? I think at the end of the day when he has a chance to feel out other team's he will come to realize that we have made him a very nice offer and DC is where he fit's in best, A lot of success can be attributed to William's and his ability to use Smoot the right way, who know's how someone else will use him? [see trotter] I think Smoot want's to be here he's just playing games right now trying to get more money out of the skin's.

I'm willing to bet the rams as well as other were thinking the same thing about Dre Bly but then the lions laid done a much bigger contract than anyone else was offering to make sure they got him. didn't he get a contract at the time that made him put him in the top 10 CBs pay wise where as he's somewhere in the top 10-20 range in skill?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

That's kind of what I'm thinking, but it seems the media acts like he is gone as gone.

[SKINSnCANES]

what are teh details that go along with a transition tag?

[joecrisp]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

what are teh details that go along with a transition tag?

http://nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?su...Complete#art20

Section 3. Transition Player Designations:
(a) Each Club shall be permitted to designate one Unrestricted Free Agent as a Transition Player between February 1 and February 15 in the Final League Year, with the period ending at 4:00 p.m. New York time. In addition, in each League Year during the term of this Agreement, each Club shall be permitted to designate one Unrestricted Free Agent or Restricted Free Agent as a Transition Player in lieu of designating a Franchise Player, if such Franchise Player designation is available to such Club, in addition to the Transition Player designation permitted by the immediately preceding sentence, during the same designation period as the Franchise Player designation period.

* The period for Clubs to designate Transition Players will begin on the twenty-second day preceding the first day of the new League Year and will end at 4:00 p.m. New York time on the eighth day preceding the first day of the new League Year.

* Side Letter 1/22/01
(b) Any Club that designates a Transition Player shall receive the Rights of First Refusal specified in this Article notwithstanding the number of his Accrued Seasons. Any Transition Player shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club during the period from the first day of the League Year following the expiration of his last player contract to July 22, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs of any kind, subject only to the Prior Club's Right of First Refusal described in this Article.

* Extension Agreement 1/8/02

Section 4. Required Tender for Transition Players:

(a) Any Club that designates a Transition Player shall be deemed on the first day of the League Year following the expiration of the player’s last contract to have automatically tendered the player a one year NFL Player Contract for the average of the ten largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position at which he played the most games during the prior League Year, or 120% of his Prior Year Salary, whichever is greater. The tender may be withdrawn at any time, but if such tender is withdrawn, the player immediately becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent and thereafter is completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without any penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period.

** See Page 70 - Article XX, Section 2(g) for Side Letter 6/23/93, Sec. 5 re: Calculation of Minimum Tender to Franchise and Transition Players.

Page 72

(b) For the 1993 League Year, any Club that designated a Transition Player who has not signed a Player Contract by 4:00 p.m. New York time on June 14, and which has not withdrawn its required tender, shall tender such player a one year NFL Player Contract for (i) the average of the ten largest Salaries in Player Contracts signed for the 1993 League Year as of May 6, 1993 for players at the position at which he played the most games during the prior League Year, or (ii) the amount of the required tender pursuant to subsection (a) above, whichever is greater. This tender may be withdrawn at any time, but if such tender is withdrawn, the player immediately becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent and thereafter is completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any such player, without any penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period.

(c) The calculation of any ten largest Salaries pursuant to this Article shall not include: (i) any Player Contract amount resulting from an acceptance of a tender pursuant to subsection (b)(i) above, without any increase in Salary above the tender; or (ii) any Player Contract amount resulting from a renegotiation of an existing Player Contract between the time of the designation and any applicable later date; provided, however, that Player Contract amounts in existence prior to such renegotiations shall be used if otherwise appropriate.

Section 5. Right of First Refusal for Transition Players: Any player designated as a Transition Player shall, at the expiration of his prior year Player Contract, be permitted to negotiate a Player Contract with any Club. When the Transition Player negotiates such an offer with a New Club, which the player desires to accept, he shall give to the Prior Club a completed Offer Sheet, signed by the player and the New Club, which shall contain the Principal Terms (as defined in Article XIX (Veteran Free Agency)) of the New Club’s offer. The Prior Club, within seven days from the date it receives the Offer Sheet, may exercise or not exercise its Right of First Refusal, which shall have the legal consequences set forth in Sections 3(b)‑(h), 4 and 6 of Article XIX (Veteran Free Agency) above, except that no Draft Choice Compensation shall be made with respect to such player, and, for the purposes of those provisions, the player and each Club shall otherwise have the same rights and obligations as for a Restricted Free Agent set forth in those provisions, notwithstanding the number of his Accrued Seasons.

Basically, using the transition tag on Smoot would guarantee him a one-year salary equal to the average of the top ten salaries at cornerback, and the Skins would get right of first refusal, but no draft choice compensation.

I'm not sure, but I'm thinking the transition tag salary wouldn't be that much lower than the franchise tag salary, so there's really not much reason for the Skins to use it, considering they'd receive no draft pick compensation anyway.

[joecrisp]

The transition tender for 2004 was $5.7 million. Considering the franchise tender for 2005 jumped by $2 million over 2004's $6.8 million tender, you could expect that the transition tag for 2005 is probably in the range of last year's franchise figure.

Essentially, by giving Smoot the transition tag, the Redskins would be offering Champ Bailey money for Smoot, without the protection of draft choice compensation.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Ugh... and that would be very upsetting.

[SKINSnCANES]

thanks for the info joecrisp.

We clearly cant afford to franchise him. I guess we'll see waht Smoot wants to do, the ball is kinda in his court right now

[EEich]

bye bye fred.

[Balmerskinsfan]

I love Smoot- CBs that actually hit people in the mouth rule. 8.8 mil is too much for a CB, and Williams seems like he could pick a fan out of the seats and make him a decent defensive player, but say we cut Smoot and save a buch of money. You know Snyders dumb ass is just going to flush the money saved by signing some washed up peice of crap player with a big name to an inflated contract (can somebody say Deion?). At least w/Freddy we know what we've got.