Some Things Never Change (WP:RI Article)

[SmootSmack]

A few things here:

I wouldn't just assume that Cerrato is staying because he went to scout some players. I mean he is the current EVP of Football (or whatever his title is) so it's only natural that he would continue to do his job until told otherwise.

The article doesn't mention all the other scouting that has been done across the country with other schools and players (such as John Skelton )

Not sure what they mean by in-person evaluation of Clausen. There really isn't much the Redskins could do before this week once Clausen declared.

I'm a bit surprised they wouldn't even try to tender Campbell and see what they can get out of him. But other people have also said that's not their intention

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

A few things here:

I wouldn't just assume that Cerrato is staying because he went to scout some players. I mean he is the current EVP of Football (or whatever his title is) so it's only natural that he would continue to do his job until told otherwise.

I agree with you on Cerrato scouting players. Until and unless he's relieved of his duties, its good to know he's doing his job (as opposed to doing a radio show). But Snyder's participation in the scouting trip is what bothers me. If Snyder wants to personally evaluate the guy a few weeks before the draft - fine; its his money. But going on a scouting trip during the regular season only strengthens the perception that he's a meddlesome owner. If he had any hopes of convincing head coaching prospects out there that he's changed, he can throw those out the window now.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not sure what they mean by in-person evaluation of Clausen. There really isn't much the Redskins could do before this week once Clausen declared.

cerrato could arrange something, i'm sure he still knows a couple guys in south bend that would arrange somthing for him

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

cerrato could arrange something, i'm sure he still knows a couple guys in south bend that would arrange somthing for him

But it'd be illegal.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But it'd be illegal.

that is would be, so would talking to albert hanyesworth before he was officially released...

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

A few things here:

I wouldn't just assume that Cerrato is staying because he went to scout some players. I mean he is the current EVP of Football (or whatever his title is) so it's only natural that he would continue to do his job until told otherwise.

The article doesn't mention all the other scouting that has been done across the country with other schools and players (such as John Skelton )

Not sure what they mean by in-person evaluation of Clausen. There really isn't much the Redskins could do before this week once Clausen declared.

I'm a bit surprised they wouldn't even try to tender Campbell and see what they can get out of him. But other people have also said that's not their intention

Wouldn't this be like buying draft picks? If DS is willing to spend 40MIL on Phat Al, why not a tender for some draft picks?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Wouldn't this be like buying draft picks? If DS is willing to spend 40MIL on Phat Al, why not a tender for some draft picks?

Tramp, I hope the FO sees it this way.

[redsk1]

I don't know that I would take this to mean that VC is going to be here next year. Let's hope not. Doesn't mean VC should stop working. They're just doing some due dilegence and I'm ok w/ that.

[Paintrain]

I wouldn't read too much into that.. Cerrato still has a job to do and unless told otherwise part of it is to prepare for next year's draft. There have also been reports citing 'belief among some at Redskins Park' that Snyder is fed up with Cerrato and that Cerrato has bad mouthed Snyder in league circles. Wait until the dust settles in January before assessing if things have changed or not.

[MTK]

I don't think it's all that uncommon for owners to go along on a scouting trip, for the bigger college names at least.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't think it's all that uncommon for owners to go along on a scouting trip, for the bigger college names at least.

really? besides Jerry Jones I wouldnt think so

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

really? besides Jerry Jones I wouldnt think so

i think matty's right, but most owners who do that don't have a puppet for a gm

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't think it's all that uncommon for owners to go along on a scouting trip, for the bigger college names at least.

Matty:

Art Rooney doesn't go scouting. Robert Kraft doesn't go scouting. Jeffrie Lurie doesn't go scouting. Those are three NFL situations I know are the case. Their teams are pretty successful year over year...


I seriously doubt that other successful owners regularly went out to scout players on their own in past times. - - other than Jerry Jones who has been the owner AND GM of the team for the last 15 years or so. And by the way, it has been 13 years since the Cowboys won a playoff game. Oh, you can put George Halas in the bin of owners who scouted too; of course he was the head coach in addition to all of the other responsibilities... Those were simpler times.


Here is what bothers me about Snyder scouting a QB:

Back in his early years here, he boasted to the Washington Post Sunday Magazine in an article on him that HE was the one who found Patrick Ramsey and made sure the team drafted Ramsey with its first draft pick.

That tells me that Danny Boy would not know a great QB if it came up to him and bit him on the ass and announced in a loud voice, "I am a great QB!"

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Matty:

Art Rooney doesn't go scouting. Robert Kraft doesn't go scouting. Jeffrie Lurie doesn't go scouting. Those are three NFL situations I know are the case. Their teams are pretty successful year over year...


I seriously doubt that other successful owners regularly went out to scout players on their own in past times. - - other than Jerry Jones who has been the owner AND GM of the team for the last 15 years or so. And by the way, it has been 13 years since the Cowboys won a playoff game. Oh, you can put George Halas in the bin of owners who scouted too; of course he was the head coach in addition to all of the other responsibilities... Those were simpler times.


Here is what bothers me about Snyder scouting a QB:

Back in his early years here, he boasted to the Washington Post Sunday Magazine in an article on him that HE was the one who found Patrick Ramsey and made sure the team drafted Ramsey with its first draft pick.

That tells me that Danny Boy would not know a great QB if it came up to him and bit him on the ass and announced in a loud voice, "I am a great QB!"

Exactly, well said, it wouldnt bother me if Snyder went to look at a player if I knew he wasnt the guy making the decision on who we pick.

Hellllllllllooooooo this is why we have sucked for 10 years under his bs reign as owner, he is making football decisions!!!Good god cant everybody agree that Snyder way of running an organization is wrong and it doesnt work?...dont we see the common denominator here?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Exactly, well said, it wouldnt bother me if Snyder went to look at a player if I knew he wasnt the guy making the decision on who we pick.

Hellllllllllooooooo this is why we have sucked for 10 years under his bs reign as owner, he is making football decisions!!!Good god cant everybody agree that Snyder way of running an organization is wrong and it doesnt work?...dont we see the common denominator here?

Read Smoots post.