Jerry Porter will test free agent waters

MTK · 02-11-2005, 12:23 PM

Porter is definitely an upgrade over Thrash and Jacobs. Thrash is not a starting WR, and Jacobs is still an unknown.

firstdown · 02-11-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Porter is definitely an upgrade over Thrash and Jacobs. Thrash is not a starting WR, and Jacobs is still an unknown.

I don't think that is how we should view this. Is he an upgrade over Gardner is the real question?

MTK · 02-11-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't think that is how we should view this. Is he an upgrade over Gardner is the real question?

Look at their respective seasons this year:

Porter: 64 catches, 998 yards and 9 TD's. 17 catches from 20 yards or more, 5 from 40 or more.

Gardner: 51 catches, 650 yards and 5 TD's. 7 catches from 20 yards or more, 3 from 40 or more.

They're both similar as far as size, but Porter is faster and more of big play guy. Anybody remember when he lit up Champ Bailey for 135 yards and 3 scores?

I'm not saying I necessarily want him, but if given the choice of Porter or Burress I think I would lean towards Porter. And given the choice of Porter or Thrash/Jacobs, definitely Porter. Thrash is a solid #3/4 and is great on special teams, but he's not starting quality as we saw from his time in Philly. I like Jacobs potential but he's a total unknown at this point.

Monksdown · 02-11-2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Look at their respective seasons this year:

Porter: 64 catches, 998 yards and 9 TD's. 17 catches from 20 yards or more, 5 from 40 or more.

Gardner: 51 catches, 650 yards and 5 TD's. 7 catches from 20 yards or more, 3 from 40 or more.

They're both similar as far as size, but Porter is faster and more of big play guy. Anybody remember when he lit up Champ Bailey for 135 yards and 3 scores?

I'm not saying I necessarily want him, but if given the choice of Porter or Burress I think I would lean towards Porter. And given the choice of Porter or Thrash/Jacobs, definitely Porter. Thrash is a solid #3/4 and is great on special teams, but he's not starting quality as we saw from his time in Philly. I like Jacobs potential but he's a total unknown at this point.

Did you honestly say Porter over Burress? Are you joking? Burress is 5 inches taller and nearly as fast with excellent hands. And I think he's younger. Listen guys, we can stack our entire wide receiving corp with shorties if you would like to. but that's not going to showcase Patrick's arm at all. Come on. The reason we had gardner was because of his size. You need one tall wide out. Porter, and Alstott stink.

Shane · 02-11-2005, 08:49 PM

What is the lesson you get from the New England Patriots? Going for team first players who work together - unselfishly - is the key. The team is more than the sum of the alleged talent of the parts.

So, if you get me first whiners who want to be catered to and given special treatment, you have a nursery school and not a football team.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...PGQVB8O8P1.DTL

From the SF Chronicle:

Porter conceded the Raiders' contract offer is very fair. "That's great money -- definitely more than I played for ($598,500 in '04)," said Porter. "But at the same time, why didn't they do this in October, when they knew I was going to become a free agent?''

His dissatisfaction with the organization dates back to the 2003 season, specifically the chaos that surrounded the season finale in San Diego, during which then-coach Bill Callahan dismissed cornerback Charles Woodson and running back Charlie Garner prior to the game for missing a team meeting the night before.

"There was a whole lot of nonsense that went into it, but that was the point where I just became, whatever happens, happens, I'm going to do the best for me now,'' said Porter, who also was infuriated by reports in October that the Raiders were open to trade offers for him....

..."I don't know how much longer I'm going to play. I could get a career-threatening injury and be out of football in no time."

saden1 · 02-11-2005, 01:23 PM

I wouldn't pay more than 20 million to this clown. Yes, he scores TD's but overall his numbers aren't so hot. Nor is his running and catching abilities. 20 million is a stretch and anything more than 8 million in SB is a lot more than he deserves.

diehardskin2982 · 02-11-2005, 02:24 PM

Porter is good, he may come for a cheaper $ than what u expect. He just wants to leave the Raiders, it similar to Champ because champ seemed not to care what we offered him he wanted to leave. I personly would draft williams and go after givens from the pats. I like porter he' s a great guy but I want a rookie youth to come in so they'll be here for more than just 2 years

he's an awesome athelet though i remember one year he went to a Giants benefit and hit a homer in MLB park, he has pure athletic talent

jamf · 02-11-2005, 04:23 PM

what the hell, is it fair just to compair porters best year to gardners worst year?

look at the whole pictures:
porter 5 year career ******** gardner 4 year career
32 games started ******* 62 games started
163 receptions ******* 227 receptions
2273 yards receiving ******* 2997 yards
19 TD's. ****** 22 tds.

whats so special about this guy again?
alot of you guys critisized gardner for being in the league 4 years and not developing,why arent you saying the same about porter and is 5 year career? hell, he even learned under brown and rice.

another thing, 20 MILLION DOLLARS!!!! where are all the guys that kept saying dont bring in anyone for big money? 5 million a year isnt breaking the bank but considering porters production, its alot of money to gamble on him "maturing".

thrash and jacobs are alot faster than porter. i would rather have them give it a go because we have nothing to lose with them.

btw sorry for the stats formating

SKINSnCANES · 02-12-2005, 11:57 PM

Porter just wants a big contract to get money and doesnt care about who he plays for, we dont need him in DC. And I dont know why everyone keeps saying they would rather have him than Plax. The cheapest, and perhaps best option at wide receiver would be Mike Williams.

Shane · 02-13-2005, 04:54 AM

Porter may be headed to Philadelphia...

Key Free Agents Ready To hit The Market
By Scout.Com
Date: Feb 9, 2005

The Raiders have a few keynote unrestricted free agents that will hit the market on March 2 unless the team reaches a contract agreement with them before hand. The two marquee players are cornerback Charles Woodson and wide receiver Jerry Porter.

Scout.com has learned that the Philadelphia Eagles have strong interest in soon to be unrestricted free agent wide receiver Jerry Porter. Porter, a Oakland Raider since he was selected in the second round in the 2000 NFL draft, will become a free agent on March 2 unless the team reaches a contract agreement with him before hand. Porter reached a playing time clause in his contract which has allowed him to void the final year of his contract.

Porter's agent Joel Segal had contract talks over the last month or so with the team but no deal is imminent. Porter said after their final game of the season that he would give the Raiders a chance to re-sign him.

The Eagles are looking for a young physical receiver that can also make catches down field and Porter fits the bill. The team, we're told, has liked Porter for years. Philadelphia has ample room under the salary cap (around $17-$18 million) to sign a few impact free agents so they would be able to sign Porter a lucrative deal while being able to pursue other name free agents.

wolfeskins · 02-13-2005, 08:49 AM

i really don't like porter and i'm not exactly sure why but i say the skins would be better off without him.

skinsfanthru&thru · 02-13-2005, 10:43 AM

comparing career stats between gardner and porter is a bit of a farce in my opinion because for one thing didn't porter miss quite a bit of time a year ago because of an injury and correct me if I'm mistaken but for the early part of his career he played 3rd string because there were some guys named Jerry Rice and Tim Brown ahead of him on the depth chart. Despite that he finished 2002, his first year with decent playing time, with 50+ catches, 650+ yards, and 9 TDs. Garnder has been the number one or two recieving threat for the skins since he arrived so of course his career numbers and games started will be quite a bit higher than Porter but then again Gardner didn't have 2 future first ballot HOF wrs to compete with for playing time and looks either.

between the two big free agent wrs this year, I'd be happy with both if they come at somewhat of a similar price, but I think Buress would better compliment Coles a lot better than Gardner cuz Buress has shown himself to be a legitimate consistent deep threat with his hands also being a notch or 2 better than Gardners. For me it all depends on the price and if that story about porter going to phili is true then that's a pretty big step up for them from "the people's chump" and gator arms. of course I'd also like to hear how the up coming draftees do at the combine but that happen before free agency does it?

Gmanc711 · 02-13-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

Porter may be headed to Philadelphia...

Key Free Agents Ready To hit The Market
By Scout.Com
Date: Feb 9, 2005

The Raiders have a few keynote unrestricted free agents that will hit the market on March 2 unless the team reaches a contract agreement with them before hand. The two marquee players are cornerback Charles Woodson and wide receiver Jerry Porter.

Scout.com has learned that the Philadelphia Eagles have strong interest in soon to be unrestricted free agent wide receiver Jerry Porter. Porter, a Oakland Raider since he was selected in the second round in the 2000 NFL draft, will become a free agent on March 2 unless the team reaches a contract agreement with him before hand. Porter reached a playing time clause in his contract which has allowed him to void the final year of his contract.

Porter's agent Joel Segal had contract talks over the last month or so with the team but no deal is imminent. Porter said after their final game of the season that he would give the Raiders a chance to re-sign him.

The Eagles are looking for a young physical receiver that can also make catches down field and Porter fits the bill. The team, we're told, has liked Porter for years. Philadelphia has ample room under the salary cap (around $17-$18 million) to sign a few impact free agents so they would be able to sign Porter a lucrative deal while being able to pursue other name free agents.

I'll tell you what, if he goes to Philly, they are going to have one of the leagues most dangerous reciving cores. TO, Porter and the new kid Greg Lewis, would be a pretty nasty combo. I hope Porter dosent go to Philledalphia.

I wouldnt mind having Porter here, or Burress, but I would choose other. I would really like to see us get a WR via the draft. Obviously Edwards, Williams and Williamson or Clayton are going to be your top 3/4 recivers, and I would be happy with any of them (pending we traded down for Williamson or Clayton. I'd be pissed if we took them w/ #9, unless they have a amazing combine.)

SmootSmack · 02-13-2005, 01:42 PM

If I'm Philadelphia I'd be devoting my time and money to getting Shaun Alexander in an Eagles uniform. Or trying to swing a trade for Edge or Travis Henry.

MTK · 02-13-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

If I'm Philadelphia I'd be devoting my time and money to getting Shaun Alexander in an Eagles uniform. Or trying to swing a trade for Edge or Travis Henry.

The Eagles will be scary if they obtain a big-time RB who can pound between the tackles.

View Poll Results: You're Dan Snyder, which free agent WR do you go after?
Plaxico Burress	7	63.64%
Jerry Porter	1	9.09%
other (explain)	3	27.27%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

02-11-2005, 02:24 PM	#7
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Porter is good, he may come for a cheaper $ than what u expect. He just wants to leave the Raiders, it similar to Champ because champ seemed not to care what we offered him he wanted to leave. I personly would draft williams and go after givens from the pats. I like porter he' s a great guy but I want a rookie youth to come in so they'll be here for more than just 2 years he's an awesome athelet though i remember one year he went to a Giants benefit and hit a homer in MLB park, he has pure athletic talent __________________ That got ugly fast

02-13-2005, 04:54 AM	#10
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	Porter may be headed to Philadelphia Porter may be headed to Philadelphia... Key Free Agents Ready To hit The Market By Scout.Com Date: Feb 9, 2005 The Raiders have a few keynote unrestricted free agents that will hit the market on March 2 unless the team reaches a contract agreement with them before hand. The two marquee players are cornerback Charles Woodson and wide receiver Jerry Porter. Scout.com has learned that the Philadelphia Eagles have strong interest in soon to be unrestricted free agent wide receiver Jerry Porter. Porter, a Oakland Raider since he was selected in the second round in the 2000 NFL draft, will become a free agent on March 2 unless the team reaches a contract agreement with him before hand. Porter reached a playing time clause in his contract which has allowed him to void the final year of his contract. Porter's agent Joel Segal had contract talks over the last month or so with the team but no deal is imminent. Porter said after their final game of the season that he would give the Raiders a chance to re-sign him. The Eagles are looking for a young physical receiver that can also make catches down field and Porter fits the bill. The team, we're told, has liked Porter for years. Philadelphia has ample room under the salary cap (around $17-$18 million) to sign a few impact free agents so they would be able to sign Porter a lucrative deal while being able to pursue other name free agents.

02-13-2005, 01:42 PM	#14
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	If I'm Philadelphia I'd be devoting my time and money to getting Shaun Alexander in an Eagles uniform. Or trying to swing a trade for Edge or Travis Henry. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-11-2005, 12:23 PM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Porter is definitely an upgrade over Thrash and Jacobs. Thrash is not a starting WR, and Jacobs is still an unknown.

02-11-2005, 08:49 PM	#5
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	What is the lesson you get from the New England Patriots? Going for team first players who work together - unselfishly - is the key. The team is more than the sum of the alleged talent of the parts. So, if you get me first whiners who want to be catered to and given special treatment, you have a nursery school and not a football team. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...PGQVB8O8P1.DTL From the SF Chronicle: Porter conceded the Raiders' contract offer is very fair. "That's great money -- definitely more than I played for ($598,500 in '04)," said Porter. "But at the same time, why didn't they do this in October, when they knew I was going to become a free agent?'' His dissatisfaction with the organization dates back to the 2003 season, specifically the chaos that surrounded the season finale in San Diego, during which then-coach Bill Callahan dismissed cornerback Charles Woodson and running back Charlie Garner prior to the game for missing a team meeting the night before. "There was a whole lot of nonsense that went into it, but that was the point where I just became, whatever happens, happens, I'm going to do the best for me now,'' said Porter, who also was infuriated by reports in October that the Raiders were open to trade offers for him.... ..."I don't know how much longer I'm going to play. I could get a career-threatening injury and be out of football in no time."

02-11-2005, 01:23 PM	#6
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	I wouldn't pay more than 20 million to this clown. Yes, he scores TD's but overall his numbers aren't so hot. Nor is his running and catching abilities. 20 million is a stretch and anything more than 8 million in SB is a lot more than he deserves.

02-11-2005, 04:23 PM	#8
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,349	what the hell, is it fair just to compair porters best year to gardners worst year? look at the whole pictures: porter 5 year career ****** gardner 4 year career 32 games started *** 62 games started 163 receptions *** 227 receptions 2273 yards receiving *** 2997 yards 19 TD's. **** 22 tds. whats so special about this guy again? alot of you guys critisized gardner for being in the league 4 years and not developing,why arent you saying the same about porter and is 5 year career? hell, he even learned under brown and rice. another thing, 20 MILLION DOLLARS!!!! where are all the guys that kept saying dont bring in anyone for big money? 5 million a year isnt breaking the bank but considering porters production, its alot of money to gamble on him "maturing". thrash and jacobs are alot faster than porter. i would rather have them give it a go because we have nothing to lose with them. btw sorry for the stats formating

02-12-2005, 11:57 PM	#9
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Porter just wants a big contract to get money and doesnt care about who he plays for, we dont need him in DC. And I dont know why everyone keeps saying they would rather have him than Plax. The cheapest, and perhaps best option at wide receiver would be Mike Williams. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

02-13-2005, 08:49 AM	#11
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	i really don't like porter and i'm not exactly sure why but i say the skins would be better off without him.

02-13-2005, 10:43 AM	#12
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	comparing career stats between gardner and porter is a bit of a farce in my opinion because for one thing didn't porter miss quite a bit of time a year ago because of an injury and correct me if I'm mistaken but for the early part of his career he played 3rd string because there were some guys named Jerry Rice and Tim Brown ahead of him on the depth chart. Despite that he finished 2002, his first year with decent playing time, with 50+ catches, 650+ yards, and 9 TDs. Garnder has been the number one or two recieving threat for the skins since he arrived so of course his career numbers and games started will be quite a bit higher than Porter but then again Gardner didn't have 2 future first ballot HOF wrs to compete with for playing time and looks either. between the two big free agent wrs this year, I'd be happy with both if they come at somewhat of a similar price, but I think Buress would better compliment Coles a lot better than Gardner cuz Buress has shown himself to be a legitimate consistent deep threat with his hands also being a notch or 2 better than Gardners. For me it all depends on the price and if that story about porter going to phili is true then that's a pretty big step up for them from "the people's chump" and gator arms. of course I'd also like to hear how the up coming draftees do at the combine but that happen before free agency does it?

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