BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

[12thMan]

I'll bet JC stays.

[Redskins_P]

I doubt Shanahan will be the HC.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

I doubt Shanahan will be the HC.

Holmgren?

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by pg86

Holmgren?

Holmgren is only looking for a GM position, not HC. Shanahan wants to be both. It has be Gruden.

[12thMan]

lol suppose Snyder announces JC has been extended a fat contract.

[dmek25]

thought this was interesting. Allen's draft history with Tampa
2008 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 20 Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State
3 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers
4 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6 175 Geno Hayes OLB Florida State
7 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina

2007 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears G Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli SAF Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DT North Carolina Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State
7 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama

2006 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 23 Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood T Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE North Carolina State
7 235 Justin Phinisee CB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett DE Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan

2005 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 5 Cadillac Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State
4 107 Dan Buenning G Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins -- Pearl River CC MS
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington State
7 253 J.R. Russell WR Louisville

2004 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will Allen SAF Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry G North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer RB Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams CB Southern University

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by dmek25

thought this was interesting. Allen's draft history with Tampa
2008 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 20 Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State
3 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers
4 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6 175 Geno Hayes OLB Florida State
7 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina

2007 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears G Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli SAF Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DT North Carolina Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State
7 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama

2006 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 23 Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood T Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE North Carolina State
7 235 Justin Phinisee CB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett DE Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan

2005 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 5 Cadillac Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State
4 107 Dan Buenning G Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins -- Pearl River CC MS
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington State
7 253 J.R. Russell WR Louisville

2004 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will Allen SAF Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry G North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer RB Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams CB Southern University

Looks like more misses than hits.

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Looks like more misses than hits.

There are a lot of pics there though. Maybe I won't have so much down time during the draft from now on.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by dmek25

thought this was interesting. Allen's draft history with Tampa
2008 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 20 Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2 58 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State
3 83 Jeremy Zuttah G Rutgers
4 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6 175 Geno Hayes OLB Florida State
7 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina

2007 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears G Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli SAF Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DT North Carolina Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State
7 214 Chris Denman T Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton CB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama

2006 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 23 Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood T Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE North Carolina State
7 235 Justin Phinisee CB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett DE Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan

2005 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 5 Cadillac Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State
4 107 Dan Buenning G Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins -- Pearl River CC MS
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington State
7 253 J.R. Russell WR Louisville

2004 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will Allen SAF Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry G North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer RB Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams CB Southern University

Not very good IMO. Gaines Adams turned out to be pure bust as did Michael Clayton. Williams is a stud but he just can't stay healthy. Josh Johnson is simply awful. Talib has serious character issues.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not very good IMO. Gaines Adams turned out to be pure bust as did Michael Clayton. Williams is a stud but he just can't stay healthy. Josh Johnson is simply awful. Talib has serious character issues.

I think alot has to do with the scouting involved. I don't know how the TB organization was set up, but I have always thought our scouts were top notch.

Time will tell.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think alot has to do with the scouting involved. I don't know how the TB organization was set up, but I have always thought our scouts were top notch.

Time will tell.

Good point. SS said he was more involved with the business end. Maybe he listens to the scouting department and coaches come draft time.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not very good IMO. Gaines Adams turned out to be pure bust as did Michael Clayton. Williams is a stud but he just can't stay healthy. Josh Johnson is simply awful. Talib has serious character issues.

Is this the same Talib that picked off Jason Campbell 3 times?

I don't expect everyone to agree with Allen's hiring. But come on, Vinny was terrible in certain aspects and Allen has had success as a general manager. At least let the guy come in and start working before you start pissing all over him.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Is this the same Talib that picked off Jason Campbell 3 times?

I don't expect everyone to agree with Allen's hiring. But come on, Vinny was terrible in certain aspects and Allen has had success as a general manager. At least let the guy come in and start working before you start pissing all over him.

I'm not pissing on him. I think Snyder did the right thing and this is a good move. But I'm just going to take a wait and see attitude.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not pissing on him. I think Snyder did the right thing and this is a good move. But I'm just going to take a wait and see attitude.

I don't think anyone is saying championship, but things have got to be better.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Is this the same Talib that picked off Jason Campbell 3 times?

I don't expect everyone to agree with Allen's hiring. But come on, Vinny was terrible in certain aspects and Allen has had success as a general manager. At least let the guy come in and start working before you start pissing all over him.

I know!?