Haynesworth Appreciation Thread

skinsfan69 · 12-22-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Unlike Haynesworth, they weren't 350 pounds. Both of them were great players (Butz is one of my favorite Redskins), but I suspect it would have been difficult to stay on the field constantly if they were as big as AH.

Butz was one of the very first if not the first 300lb DT so he was way ahead of his time. Guy never came off the field and didn't play soft.

Pocket$ $traight · 12-22-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Butz was one of the very first if not the first 300lb DT so he was way ahead of his time. Guy never came off the field and didn't play soft.

Butz was great and a world champion but never as dominant as Big Al.

skins89moss · 12-25-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Butz was one of the very first if not the first 300lb DT so he was way ahead of his time. Guy never came off the field and didn't play soft.

Yo how old were you when Dave Butz and Darrly Grant played? Do you remember Diron Talbert and Ron McDole? How about Duane Thomas when you were speaking about character issues on a another post.

53Fan · 12-22-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Unlike Haynesworth, they weren't 350 pounds. Both of them were great players (Butz is one of my favorite Redskins), but I suspect it would have been difficult to stay on the field constantly if they were as big as AH.

As good as they were, I doubt they were going against as big of linemen as there are today either. Put someone like Suh beside AH, someone where he can't be double and triple teamed all the time and I bet you see a difference.

Pocket$ $traight · 12-22-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Wrong. Do you remember guys like Dave Butz and Daryl Grant? Well these guys were old school dudes cause guess what? They didn't come off the damn field and they weren't soft.

So Big Al is soft? I will agree that he needs to get in better shape. I don't think I have heard anyone call him "soft" at least no one who had to identify themselves.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 12-22-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Wrong. Do you remember guys like Dave Butz and Daryl Grant? Well these guys were old school dudes cause guess what? They didn't come off the damn field and they weren't soft.

Butz and Grant were fantastic and the type of players I love, old school. However, neither could provide the explosiveness in the pass rush AH brings to the table.

skinsfaninok · 12-22-2009, 08:55 PM

Big al is amazing live that guy

Skins fan 44 · 12-22-2009, 09:11 PM

He has heart. My main reason to love him is that he stepped on that Cowboys head. Glad he is ok. Kind of hope he does something like that next week to liven up the rivalry.

skinsfan69 · 12-22-2009, 09:13 PM

Are you kidding me w/ this silly thread??? AH takes so many damn plays off it's not even funny. He's lazy, he's not in shape, he showed up out of shape and it's carried on all through the season and it shows up in his play. Who cares if he slugs a guy when D. Hall is fighting? That's not leadership! It's stupid cause you just got 15 yards. If your fat ass was a leader then you'd get in D. Hall's face and tell him to stop fighting and ball! Haynesworth is the kind of guy you can't win with cause your highest paid guy needs to be a leader by example....aka Reggie White. This fat ass is a joke and I don't care if I get flamed.

tdSKINS1 · 12-22-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Are you kidding me w/ this silly thread??? AH takes so many damn plays off it's not even funny. He's lazy, he's not in shape, he showed up out of shape and it's carried on all through the season and it shows up in his play. Who cares if he slugs a guy when D. Hall is fighting? That's not leadership! It's stupid cause you just got 15 yards. If your fat ass was a leader then you'd get in D. Hall's face and tell him to stop fighting and ball! Haynesworth is the kind of guy you can't win with cause your highest paid guy needs to be a leader by example....aka Reggie White. This fat ass is a joke and I don't care if I get flamed.

How can you say that when he obviously made a significant difference in our pass rush this year? The guy is an absolute presence and if he wasn't double teamed half the time you would see how effective he really is. 53 said it right if you asked an opposing team if they wanted him in or out against them what do you think they would say?

skinsfan69 · 12-22-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

How can you say that when he obviously made a significant difference in our pass rush this year? The guy is an absolute presence and if he wasn't double teamed half the time you would see how effective he really is. 53 said it right if you asked an opposing team if they wanted him in or out against them what do you think they would say?

Then why does our defense suck? If the pass rush is so damn good then why do we constantly give up long pass plays? Where was the pass rush last night? I don't give a damn about beating up Oakland or Tampa bay or STL. We need that pass rush to beat the NYG.

Look, I like our defense for the most part and they keep the score down most of the time. But has Haynesworth really made us a dominant defense? No. We're not better than last year and you could argue that we're worse. As I said I would've got Tank Johnson and maybe Chris Canty, add in Orakpo and called it a day.

53Fan · 12-22-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Then why does our defense suck? If the pass rush is so damn good then why do we constantly give up long pass plays? Where was the pass rush last night? I don't give a damn about beating up Oakland or Tampa bay or STL. We need that pass rush to beat the NYG.

Look, I like our defense for the most part and they keep the score down most of the time. But has Haynesworth really made us a dominant defense? No. We're not better than last year and you could argue that we're worse. As I said I would've got Tank Johnson and maybe Chris Canty, add in Orakpo and called it a day.

It's damn sure not because of AH. You can't really believe that AH taking KG or AM's spot is what has caused this defense to decline. There's a lot more to it than that, like our secondary sucking ass most of this season. All the talk about Landry missing tackles, Rogers biting on double moves and you're going to blame AH? Get real.

skinsfan69 · 12-22-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

It's damn sure not because of AH. You can't really believe that AH taking KG or AM's spot is what has caused this defense to decline. There's a lot more to it than that, like our secondary sucking ass most of this season. All the talk about Landry missing tackles, Rogers biting on double moves and you're going to blame AH? Get real.

What I'm saying is he hasn't made the defense better. He's not dominating. He makes a nice play here and there but he not making a difference cause again he has no stamina. Reggie White made a difference and for the money he's making I want someone like Reggie White.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-22-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Then why does our defense suck? If the pass rush is so damn good then why do we constantly give up long pass plays? Where was the pass rush last night? I don't give a damn about beating up Oakland or Tampa bay or STL. We need that pass rush to beat the NYG.

Look, I like our defense for the most part and they keep the score down most of the time. But has Haynesworth really made us a dominant defense? No. We're not better than last year and you could argue that we're worse. As I said I would've got Tank Johnson and maybe Chris Canty, add in Orakpo and called it a day.

Our pass d doesn't suck Landry and Rogers bite on too many double moves

Pocket$ $traight · 12-22-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Are you kidding me w/ this silly thread??? AH takes so many damn plays off it's not even funny. He's lazy, he's not in shape, he showed up out of shape and it's carried on all through the season and it shows up in his play. Who cares if he slugs a guy when D. Hall is fighting? That's not leadership! It's stupid cause you just got 15 yards. If your fat ass was a leader then you'd get in D. Hall's face and tell him to stop fighting and ball! Haynesworth is the kind of guy you can't win with cause your highest paid guy needs to be a leader by example....aka Reggie White. This fat ass is a joke and I don't care if I get flamed.

Haterade coming right up...

Don't even mention the 15 yard penalty. They should have thrown Jacobs out of the game and penalized him twice before Big Al even got involved. Wake up.

Yeah, back down and yell at Hall, that is exactly what we need....

12-22-2009, 08:55 PM	#7
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,178	re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread Big al is amazing live that guy __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-22-2009, 09:11 PM	#8
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread He has heart. My main reason to love him is that he stepped on that Cowboys head. Glad he is ok. Kind of hope he does something like that next week to liven up the rivalry. __________________ HTTR!

12-22-2009, 09:13 PM	#9
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	re: Haynesworth Appreciation Thread Are you kidding me w/ this silly thread??? AH takes so many damn plays off it's not even funny. He's lazy, he's not in shape, he showed up out of shape and it's carried on all through the season and it shows up in his play. Who cares if he slugs a guy when D. Hall is fighting? That's not leadership! It's stupid cause you just got 15 yards. If your fat ass was a leader then you'd get in D. Hall's face and tell him to stop fighting and ball! Haynesworth is the kind of guy you can't win with cause your highest paid guy needs to be a leader by example....aka Reggie White. This fat ass is a joke and I don't care if I get flamed.

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