Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

What if the best player available for those two picks are TE and WR?
Do we pull a Vinny and draft them?
I say no.

No , I would not go WR - TE . What I'am saying is this , I would pick a HOF type RB or DL as opposed to a Tackle that I believed was an above average T . I would 1st , bring in 2-3 OL in F/A , then I would not have to use " all of my pics " on one position . I will put it this way , if in rd 2 I have to choose between D.Dockery and B. Sanders ... I draft Sanders .

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by budw38

No , I would not go WR - TE . What I'am saying is this , I would pick a HOF type RB or DL as opposed to a Tackle that I believed was an above average T . I would 1st , bring in 2-3 OL in F/A , then I would not have to use " all of my pics " on one position . I will put it this way , if in rd 2 I have to choose between D.Dockery and B. Sanders ... I draft Sanders .

Good point Bud. I would imagine we'll get some FA's in here. I just don't know if any really good ones will be available. Then again, it wouldn't take much to be better than what we have.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by budw38

Don't explode ... I hear it hurts ? I agree with the OL , but .... we are probably 3 years away of being good = yr in & yr out .... so if we go BPA with one of our 1st 2 picks , I can live with that . I hope they sign 2 F/A OL as we need a guy or two that we KNOW can start from day one .

I'm....so....tired....of the same BS about us being just 1 or 2 picks away from a SB. 1 or 2 years away. I mean if we are finally going to do it right....finally going to get a GM (as we did) and finally going to build a front office like it's supposed to be done....and finally getting a whole new coaching staff, we might as well "Rebuild" the team.

Let the new staff build the team to their style. Instead of trying to put square pegs in round holes. Can they do what the Caps did....shed all their old dead wood and bring in new young healthy talent?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm....so....tired....of the same BS about us being just 1 or 2 picks away from a SB. 1 or 2 years away. I mean if we are finally going to do it right....finally going to get a GM (as we did) and finally going to build a front office like it's supposed to be done....and finally getting a whole new coaching staff, we might as well "Rebuild" the team.

Let the new staff build the team to their style. Instead of trying to put square pegs in round holes. Can they do what the Caps did....shed all their old dead wood and bring in new young healthy talent?

Even with everyone healthy we're still the 4th best team in the division. It's time to blow it up and start over. Next year should be all about rebuilding while trying to stay competitive.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm....so....tired....of the same BS about us being just 1 or 2 picks away from a SB. 1 or 2 years away. I mean if we are finally going to do it right....finally going to get a GM (as we did) and finally going to build a front office like it's supposed to be done....and finally getting a whole new coaching staff, we might as well "Rebuild" the team.

Let the new staff build the team to their style. Instead of trying to put square pegs in round holes. Can they do what the Caps did....shed all their old dead wood and bring in new young healthy talent?

I never said we were 1-2 picks from a SB , nor did I say we're close to a SB . I just hope we bring in some F/A OL so we can keep our qb alive next year .... Allen can cut most of the " stars " on 1-4-2010 for all I care ... I do not lose sleep over the Skins or any other team .

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by budw38

I never said we were 1-2 picks from a SB , nor did I say we're close to a SB . I just hope we bring in some F/A OL so we can keep our qb alive next year .... Allen can cut most of the " stars " on 1-4-2010 for all I care ... I do not lose sleep over the Skins or any other team .

Sorry dude, misread you. Thought you were saying we were 1 or 2 yrs away from being a good team and that we might just need a couple of players.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im laying the smack-down on anyone that says the skins need to draft a quarterback, or best player available. if they don't draft anything but linemen, my head will explode. and if they bring any of the current guys back, except with the intention of using them as back ups, someone needs their head examined

You don't just take an o-lineman for the mere fact that we need one. You have to make sure it's a quality pick for where you're drafting and not reaching for a player just because he's an o-lineman.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

You don't just take an o-lineman for the mere fact that we need one. You have to make sure it's a quality pick for where you're drafting and not reaching for a player just because he's an o-lineman.

But...you don't just pick up the #1 at any position either. Basically what I'm getting at is Shanahan and whoever he brings in as OL coach (hopefully A.Gibbs) will look at all the offensive lineman coming out of the draft and decide which ones would work best in their blocking scheme. Whoever that is might not even be the #1 or #2 in the draft cause the #1 or #2 might not be best for the scheme but the # 4 might be.

It's nice to think about getting the #1 OL or just picking a different position if we can't get the #1 but don't get mad if they pick up someone else cause they know what type of player fits their system.

[GusFrerotte]

It is all about scouting for your system. Zorn was screwed almost from the get go with leftovers from the Gibbs' system that obviously didn't work well in the WCO. Have to build a system with what you have to work with talent wise. For Shanny to be a success you have to blow the whol enchilada up and start from scratch.

[MTK]

I can't see how Zorn is calling plays as some people assume. Anytime they show him on the sidelines he's just standing around.

Let's face it the team has packed it in these last two weeks and all the off the field distractions haven't helped either.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I can't see how Zorn is calling plays as some people assume. Anytime they show him on the sidelines he's just standing around.

Let's face it the team has packed it in these last two weeks and all the off the field distractions haven't helped either.

I can totally see how Zorn is calling the plays. He still has a head set and mic. Plus we sucked prior to all the distractions. Especially when Zorn was game planning, play calling, and managing the clock prior to Lewis.

No one could tell me differently after the last 2 games that Allen most likely gave the keys back to Zorn so he could say he did it to give a fair evaluation on Zorn's coaching abilities. Otherwise some fans out there or other coach's would be saying "they fired Zorn and Allen never gave him a fair shake" or "how could Allen even evaluate Zorn when Lewis is running the offense."

I think Allen is letting Zorn fire himself. The only caviate would be if Zorn actually won the last 3 games by a large margin but statistically it didn't show Zorn would do that.

[redsk1]

This season is painful. I can't wait for this team to be blown up. It's embarrassing. JC looked like someone shot his dog out there.

Last night, JC had very little pocket awareness. It's hard to blame him, but he really didn't.

The defense did about as much as they could. AH played a good game.

I can't wait til the offseason.

[MTK]

You simply can't reach for a guy based on need, that's not a sound draft strategy. In no particular order I would like to see us grab a QB, RB, and OT with our first 3 picks.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You simply can't reach for a guy based on need, that's not a sound draft strategy. In no particular order I would like to see us grab a QB, RB, and OT with our first 3 picks.

You really thinking addressing the line with 1 pick is going to be good enough? you could put Peyton behind this line and we would still not get better QB play...we can only be as strong as our weakest link and our O-line is simply terrible, at this point the worst in the league IMO. I think we trade out of the first and pick up 3 OLs and get a QB/RB in the third/fourth round.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

You really thinking addressing the line with 1 pick is going to be good enough? you could put Peyton behind this line and we would still not get better QB play...we can only be as strong as our weakest link and our O-line is simply terrible, at this point the worst in the league IMO. I think we trade out of the first and pick up 3 OLs and get a QB/RB in the third/fourth round.

We have more than 3 picks, no?

And we do have other needs to address.