Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I look at it this way. If you took JC and dropped him in NE what would they do? I think he's a 4000/30TD guy there. Certainly not as good as Brady but I think he'd succeed wildly.

No way.

Is he ever going to be a dynamic play maker that turns turd players into gold like Manning or Brees? No. But he has the same physical skill set that Tom Brady does. He struggles mentally compared to Brady but he isn't a dolt. I do have suspicions about his read ability.

There-in lies the problem. Brady makes checks and plays based on what he sees in the D. I see JC doing very little, if any of that. Hell, he can't even read CB blitzes.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

No way.

There-in lies the problem. Brady makes checks and plays based on what he sees in the D. I see JC doing very little, if any of that. Hell, he can't even read CB blitzes.

Well, that's not exactly fair. He has read CB blitzes before, despite his failure against the Cowboys.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

No way.

There-in lies the problem. Brady makes checks and plays based on what he sees in the D. I see JC doing very little, if any of that. Hell, he can't even read CB blitzes.

I disagree...Brady has been running that offense for years and has a good line and weapons. JC is going on the second year and they don't let him really make any audibles. It was Portis who said he hadn't heard an audible since he was in Denver.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I disagree...Brady has been running that offense for years and has a good line and weapons. JC is going on the second year and they don't let him really make any audibles. It was Portis who said he hadn't heard an audible since he was in Denver.

I wonder what changed

Q: What is the trademark of this offense compared to the one you ran before?

A: The trademark of the offense is mismatches, actually. It is finding a way to get guys one-on-one. Before it was, “This is what we are going to do no matter what they do. They have to stop us.” And you know, fortunately for them, more than not, they had the opportunity to stop us. We didn’t have audibles before. Right now if we are in a bad play, we can get out of that play. Jason has the opportunity to put up the audibles and change things around and get us points.So I think everybody is just excited

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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Best thread in a while....

I look at it this way. If you took JC and dropped him in NE what would they do? I think he's a 4000/30TD guy there. Certainly not as good as Brady but I think he'd succeed wildly. Is he ever going to be a dynamic play maker that turns turd players into gold like Manning or Brees? No. But he has the same physical skill set that Tom Brady does. He struggles mentally compared to Brady but he isn't a dolt. I do have suspicions about his read ability. Part of me wonders if he has so much football in his head that he is lost in a football jungle but I also see the guy get destroyed every other play, lay on the ground for a few seconds and then get up and take the next snap. If I am an offensive player that freaking inspires me. His on field example is just top-notch to me.

And Rave...you forget what Ramsey was like after a couple seasons. JC is 5 times the QB Ransey ever was. He had didn't have the head for it at all and then he got scared.

No freakin way. Brady sees the field better, he's more accurate, he doesn't hold on to the ball, he anticipates wr's coming out of their breaks better and no one feels the rush like Brady does. Need I go on?

[Paintrain]

So another question for the no-sayers, do you feel that Campbell has leveled off in his improvement as a QB? I've got to think that setting career highs in all categories in spite of the disaster surrounding him means there's more there to tap into.

If we'd have won the Dallas, Philly and New Orleans games, all of which we held 4th quarter leads that the defense blew, we'd be on the cusp of a .500 season. Would we still be having this discussion?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So another question for the no-sayers, do you feel that Campbell has leveled off in his improvement as a QB? I've got to think that setting career highs in all categories in spite of the disaster surrounding him means there's more there to tap into.

If we'd have won the Dallas, Philly and New Orleans games, all of which we held 4th quarter leads that the defense blew, we'd be on the cusp of a .500 season. Would we still be having this discussion?

i think this discussion would be going on regardless of us wining those games because he just seems to be so inaccurate, the only thing is there really isn't any better opition and he isn't that bad of a qb just not that good of one either

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So another question for the no-sayers, do you feel that Campbell has leveled off in his improvement as a QB? I've got to think that setting career highs in all categories in spite of the disaster surrounding him means there's more there to tap into.

If we'd have won the Dallas, Philly and New Orleans games, all of which we held 4th quarter leads that the defense blew, we'd be on the cusp of a .500 season. Would we still be having this discussion?

Maybe if he would of showed some improvement against the Bucs, Chiefs, Lions, and Panthers. I think after our poor start that plenty of fans jumped off the JC bandwagon.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So another question for the no-sayers, do you feel that Campbell has leveled off in his improvement as a QB? I've got to think that setting career highs in all categories in spite of the disaster surrounding him means there's more there to tap into.

If we'd have won the Dallas, Philly and New Orleans games, all of which we held 4th quarter leads that the defense blew, we'd be on the cusp of a .500 season. Would we still be having this discussion?

Well let's not forget Campbell threw a costly interception at the end of regulation of the Saints game. He also threw one at the end of the Cowboys game (I think with around 2 minutes left).

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well let's not forget Campbell threw a costly interception at the end of regulation of the Saints game. He also threw one at the end of the Cowboys game (I think with around 2 minutes left).

Very true and threw an incompletion at the end of the Eagles game on 4th and 2. I was just curious if people are basing their feelings on frustration with our overall record this year, JC's performance, what they assess JC to be as a QB or projecting to what that position will look like next year without JC.

JC could have made this question moot throughout the year with consistent play at even a medium high level but playing like he did vs. Oakand and New Orleans and the way he played the last 2 games makes it a very legitimate question.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So another question for the no-sayers, do you feel that Campbell has leveled off in his improvement as a QB? I've got to think that setting career highs in all categories in spite of the disaster surrounding him means there's more there to tap into.

If we'd have won the Dallas, Philly and New Orleans games, all of which we held 4th quarter leads that the defense blew, we'd be on the cusp of a .500 season. Would we still be having this discussion?

JC has definitely regressed in a year he should've been able to step up and show improvement. JC and the Skins need to part ways. JC is a class act and a warrior, but he will never be a successful NFL QB. He continues to make the same mistakes with his progressions, ball security, and appears lost in reading the defense. As SS mentioned he continues to make mistakes in situations when he is put in a position to have to make a play.

One of the very telling stats from MNF was that the Skins have thrown 77% of their passes within 10 yds of the LoS. This is not simply a protection issue, this is an issue of a QB who has difficulty making reads and accurate throws downfield. JC's issues are not the fault of the OL, when he has had time he still makes these mistakes.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

JC has definitely regressed in a year he should've been able to step up and show improvement. JC and the Skins need to part ways. JC is a class act and a warrior, but he will never be a successful NFL QB. He continues to make the same mistakes with his progressions, ball security, and appears lost in reading the defense. As SS mentioned he continues to make mistakes in situations when he is put in a position to have to make a play.

One of the very telling stats from MNF was that the Skins have thrown 77% of their passes within 10 yds of the LoS. This is not simply a protection issue, this is an issue of a QB who has difficulty making reads and accurate throws downfield. JC's issues are not the fault of the OL, when he has had time he still makes these mistakes.

I disagree. It is mostly about lack of protection. As a result, the passing attack has been relegated to mostly 3-step drops, which will typically yield passes within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Very, very few QBs would be successful taking the beating that Campbell has this year. The Saints made Tom Brady look pretty ordinary a few weeks back when they hit him a dozen+ times.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

JC has definitely regressed in a year he should've been able to step up and show improvement. JC and the Skins need to part ways. JC is a class act and a warrior, but he will never be a successful NFL QB. He continues to make the same mistakes with his progressions, ball security, and appears lost in reading the defense. As SS mentioned he continues to make mistakes in situations when he is put in a position to have to make a play.

One of the very telling stats from MNF was that the Skins have thrown 77% of their passes within 10 yds of the LoS. This is not simply a protection issue, this is an issue of a QB who has difficulty making reads and accurate throws downfield. JC's issues are not the fault of the OL, when he has had time he still makes these mistakes.

He's setting career highs pretty much across the board so he's definitely improved. The improvement may not have been drastic, but considering everything that's happened around him, any sort of improvement is noteworthy IMO.

As for the short throws, I wouldn't put that all on him. The offense was scaled back to include more 3 step drops, and quicker shorter throws once the OL went to shit.

[CultBrennan59]

No!!

[cocoajoey]

I said no we need a change if jason stays then this new head coach will bring his own QB and in traing camp he will have to compete for the job