Prospects for Shanahans offense/Hasletts 3-4 D

[MTK]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

lets not forget the year after bruce came to the buccs he sign all those Raiders and went on a spending spree in Tampa. It wouldn't be out of character. I think it will be up to shanny who we get.

What sort of spending spree did he go on in Tampa exactly?

[CultBrennan59]

Well after watching most of the combine I come away with my top prospects in terms of whom the redskins should get in terms of over all value and who fits Shanahans offense/Hasletts 3-4 D :

1) Sam Bradford (puts on 13 lbs of muscle and just talks at the combine, then all of a sudden he's become the all but certain first overall pick)

2) Russell Okung

3)Ndamakong Suh (just watch what he did to texas's OL, and you'll see how good he really is he single handedly dominated that game and is an exception for us to get even though he may not fit the 3-4)

4) Eric Berry

5) CJ Spiller (the best RB in the draft IMO)

6) Charles Brown (looks like the next best LT in the draft; is very quick on his feet and would fit our offense very well)

7) Mike Iupati (the best guard to come out since Steve Hutchinson, has a mean streak, and I believe he could play in any offense)

8) Bryan Bulaga (has been injured and looks more like a RT in the NFL, and not a LT, doesn't really look like a T for this offense but has potential to be the best T in this draft 5 years from now)

9) Joe Haden (didn't do as good as people thought he would at the combine, but just look at the film and you'll see how good he really is; he's low because we have OL and QB needs before CB needs plus I'm assuming we'll probably go after a CB in FA)

10) Rolando McClain (didn't really do much at the combine, and people are saying he was good just because Saban's system makes him look good, I don't buy it, I also think 3-4 MLB is one of the last things we should worry about)

11) Maurkice Pouncey (the best center in the draft, big and mobile, but we'll probably get a later round center or just rely on Rabach with a later round rookie to groom; and don't sleep on Edwin Williams or Kory Lichtenstreiger)

12) Sean Weatherspoon (is perfect for this defense because he's a 4-3 OLB and a 3-4 MLB, basically a young dansby, but I also think we could have dansby, and like I said before MLB isn't a top need)

[diehardskin2982]

^ In 2004 Tampa let go of vets Sapp, Lynch, and Keshawn Johnson. They brought in 19 free agents including Brian Griese, Charlie Garner, Joey Galloway, Matt O’dwyer, Matt Stichcomb, Jason Widdle, Derrick Deese, Todd Steussie, Darrell Russell, Ian Gold, Mario Edwards, and Josh Bidwell to punt. Don't believe the Hype Matty different faces, same game!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

^ In 2004 Tampa let go of vets Sapp, Lynch, and Keshawn Johnson. They brought in 19 free agents including Brian Griese, Charlie Garner, Joey Galloway, Matt O’dwyer, Matt Stichcomb, Jason Widdle, Derrick Deese, Todd Steussie, Darrell Russell, Ian Gold, Mario Edwards, and Josh Bidwell to punt. Don't believe the Hype Matty different faces, same game!

Of those 19 FA...I only recognize the first three. It's not exactly the Skins' FO approach during Snyder's ownership...signing huge star players for enormous contracts. Tampa did things on the cheap under Allen if I'm not mistaken.

...my take is Allen thinks he can spot talent and acquire it economically. Now his boss is willing to spend whatever it takes. The important thing is Allen and Shanahan keep Snyder out of the process (entirely if possible) and make wise football decisions to build a deep, talented and cohesive roster.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

^ In 2004 Tampa let go of vets Sapp, Lynch, and Keshawn Johnson. They brought in 19 free agents including Brian Griese, Charlie Garner, Joey Galloway, Matt O’dwyer, Matt Stichcomb, Jason Widdle, Derrick Deese, Todd Steussie, Darrell Russell, Ian Gold, Mario Edwards, and Josh Bidwell to punt. Don't believe the Hype Matty different faces, same game!

Not sure I really see your point at all.

He came in and cut ties with a lot of high priced vets, and brought in a bunch of no-names basically. I don't really see how this is any sort of spending spree. Any idea what they paid for these guys? I don't see anyone that would have commanded a huge deal, certainly not like what we've seen the Skins dish out.

[diehardskin2982]

In 2004 those names meant something. they replaced their whole offensive line. If you are advocating getting players on the cheap, you typically get what you pay for... cheap play. I don't think that is what shanny an allen look to do, friday will show us all the truth.

[SmootSmack]

Technically they traded Key for Galloway

[johno]

Redskins Insider - Redskins explore their nose-tackle options in draft

as discussed in the RI report above, anyone think we will go after one of the NT studs in the draft? Dan Williams out of Tennessee, Alabama's Terrence Cody and North Carolina's Cam Thomas are the three mentioned. i assume that we would have to use our second round pick to get one of them.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by johno

Redskins Insider - Redskins explore their nose-tackle options in draft

as discussed in the RI report above, anyone think we will go after one of the NT studs in the draft? Dan Williams out of Tennessee, Alabama's Terrence Cody and North Carolina's Cam Thomas are the three mentioned. i assume that we would have to use our second round pick to get one of them.

i dont think any of those guys can be considered a "stud." given the lack of stud NTs in the NFL, any true stud NT would be being talked about as a top 5 pick. from what i've read, suh and mccoy are both more 4-3 DTs although either could play DE in a 3-4. Not sure either of them would be an ideal NT in a 3-4 though.

[johno]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i dont think any of those guys can be considered a "stud." given the lack of stud NTs in the NFL, any true stud NT would be being talked about as a top 5 pick. from what i've read, suh and mccoy are both more 4-3 DTs although either could play DE in a 3-4. Not sure either of them would be an ideal NT in a 3-4 though.

you are right on both counts. i meant the "studs" of the guys that can play NT, not of the draft in general. its also true that good NTs are few and far between.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by johno

Redskins Insider - Redskins explore their nose-tackle options in draft

as discussed in the RI report above, anyone think we will go after one of the NT studs in the draft? Dan Williams out of Tennessee, Alabama's Terrence Cody and North Carolina's Cam Thomas are the three mentioned. i assume that we would have to use our second round pick to get one of them.

When I think of Cody, the word "stud" does not come to mind. Instead I think of "blob," "glop," "mound," and similar terms.

[SmootSmack]

Redskins gave Kedric Golston the 2nd round tender, according to Jason Reid

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Redskins gave Kedric Golston the 2nd round tender, according to Jason Reid

I'm surprised. Golston never stood out to me as a guy who could take on double teams. He was getting owned in the Lions game and on that Johnathan Stewart touchdown, they double-teamed him and he got pushed back like a rag doll.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I'm surprised. Golston never stood out to me as a guy who could take on double teams. He was getting owned in the Lions game and on that Johnathan Stewart touchdown, they double-teamed him and he got pushed back like a rag doll.

theres really no reason not to tender him at that level. its cheap as crap, ensures no one will try to sign him, and if someone did, then good for us because we get a 2nd round pick.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

no one wanted him last year. i'm sure no one else will this year, especially with all the DT talent in the draft.