RI: Allen: 'We're going 100 mph getting ready for free agency'

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I've been saying all along that Cooley will be shopped around.. If someone offers us a 2nd round pick for him, he is gone.

No way we trade him for just a second.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

No way we trade him for just a second.

Agree worth more, maybe a 2nd & a 3rd next year. I don't want to see him go thou, but it is a business.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Agree worth more, maybe a 2nd & a 3rd next year. I don't want to see him go thou, but it is a business.

A couple of good games from Fred Davis and suddenly the best player on our team becomes expendable. It annoys me. We'd have to get a REALLY sweet offer to part with Cooley. I like Fred Davis a lot, but I'd also love to see some two TE sets with both of them on the field together. Hell, they may be our two best pass catchers right now.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GMScud

A couple of good games from Fred Davis and suddenly the best player on our team becomes expendable. It annoys me. We'd have to get a REALLY sweet offer to part with Cooley. I like Fred Davis a lot, but I'd also love to see some two TE sets with both of them on the field together. Hell, they may be our two best pass catchers right now.

I have argued that trading Cooley might not be a bad idea (which is different than saying we "should" trade), but only on the principle you adduced. Only trade Cooley if we can make it our own little Herschel Walker trade. Otherwise we hang on to our accomplished player who has future upside and a good attitude.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GMScud

A couple of good games from Fred Davis and suddenly the best player on our team becomes expendable. It annoys me. We'd have to get a REALLY sweet offer to part with Cooley. I like Fred Davis a lot, but I'd also love to see some two TE sets with both of them on the field together. Hell, they may be our two best pass catchers right now.

I get that, especially with the injury, giving him a productive year could up his value; not that I want Cooley to go by any means.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

No way we trade him for just a second.

Just a second? It's a no-brainer. Even a third warrants consideration.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Just a second? It's a no-brainer. Even a third warrants consideration.

What? So you draft a guy in the 3rd that plays like a 1st or 2nd and then you consider a 3rd pick? Maybe if it was another 5 years from now.

[mlmdub130]

gotta love the offseason as a skins fan, i think they are talking up portis to see if anyone shows any intrest which i doubt will happen, it's gonna be real interesting come april

[DIE-NASTY]

sounds like haslett is going run a 3-4.

I'm sure BA will be very creative and management will have Danny Boy's full support to turn this thing around for the better.

[GusFrerotte]

Cooley is a gamer and has been a great Skin. Wish we could keep guys around for awhile like the pre cap days, but if there is a trade to be made, he is the only guy that will garner the most bang. Portis' time for being traded was after '07 or '08. Rogers might not be the best trade bait. ARE might be worth a low round pick, but that is it.

[Hog1]

Bruce Allen is a good interview.

[CRedskinsRule]

I am such a sucker when it comes to the Skins. A simple comment like these and I get amp'ed. I want to get past this snow, this month and get to free agency. The discussion on Cooley is old, but I will say again the Skins would be FOOLISH to trade away a content top 5 TE in the PRIME of his career for any amount short of ft knox type picks. We need to keep our core hard nosed talent(what little we have) and let others make the stupid trades and deals. The thing Allen said that I liked:
The pieces we pick up will be the beginning. not one player away mentality but building a long term championship team

[rbanerjee23]

this is depressing..."changing offense, changing defense", can someone say rebuilding. Hopefully its not a 4-12 season

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

this is depressing..."changing offense, changing defense", can someone say rebuilding. Hopefully its not a 4-12 season

PA-LEEZE...this team was essentially the same team that Gibbs took to the playoffs....PLAYOFFS?...PLAYOFFS?

ok...except the line got injured a bit....anyways, it is my personal belief that a monkey could have gotten the Skins to win 1 more game this year. There is NO WAY shanahan goes 4-12, even with backups.

6-10 at worst...maybe....that is what I predicted for last year with Zorn at the helm who at the time I though was average.
A great coach can win a couple more games.
A HOF coach can maybe get one more out of the same rock.

It turns out Zorn kinda sucked...Shanny is in a totally different class

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

PA-LEEZE...this team was essentially the same team that Gibbs took to the playoffs....PLAYOFFS?...PLAYOFFS?

ok...except the line got injured a bit....anyways, it is my personal belief that a monkey could have gotten the Skins to win 1 more game this year. There is NO WAY shanahan goes 4-12, even with backups.

6-10 at worst...maybe....that is what I predicted for last year with Zorn at the helm who at the time I though was average.
A great coach can win a couple more games.
A HOF coach can maybe get one more out of the same rock.

It turns out Zorn kinda sucked...Shanny is in a totally different class

don't get your hopes up, have yhou seen our schedule next year Future Opponents i'm ready for a few years of rebuilding while we look towards the future and eventually have a sick team of studs like the caps who are killing it tonight