Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

That's not how it works though.

A new head coach (especially an established and successful one) means new systems, new players, and a new culture.

While I agree with you about "that is the way it is", anyone with knowledge of systems science knows that using a prescriptive solution to a complex problem rarely yields good results.

If the Redskins succeed, it will be because the coaches fit an appropriate methodology to the system (players, culture, contracts, playbook, politics, money, egos...). This will require the coaches to re-evaluate their methods as much as the players will.

[diehard]

And it was no secret that Haynesworth would not participate in voluntary off-season workouts, no matter who's coaching the team. I still wonder about the premature talk about switching to a 34 front.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by diehard

And it was no secret that Haynesworth would not participate in voluntary off-season workouts, no matter who's coaching the team. I still wonder about the premature talk about switching to a 34 front.

I think it's a media-driven much-ado-about-nothing with Al. It's completely overblown just to have something negative to report about the Skins in this very successful offseason.

Haynesworth IS working out, very hard, with the personal trainer he used to get to the Pro Bowl in 2007.

He shows up when required to. He'll play and make a huge difference when the season starts.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Buster

I think it's a media-driven much-ado-about-nothing with Al. It's completely overblown just to have something negative to report about the Skins in this very successful offseason.

Haynesworth IS working out, very hard, with the personal trainer he used to get to the Pro Bowl in 2007.

He shows up when required to. He'll play and make a huge difference when the season starts.

Agreed.
I am tired of hearing the same whiners make shit up about the 'Cancer' that is AH. Bullshit!
The word VOLUNTARY as defined by Webster's - proceeding from from one's own choice or consent. Having power of free choice.
Sheriff Shanahan and the other coaches in the NFL need to shut their mouths about not attending VOLUNTARY events. The coaches should be fined for creating hostile work environment. LOL!
Every offseason the coaches start this same bullshit and whine like little bitches. Then the press and fans overreact.
If the NFL wants to make some of these things an OBLIGATION and part of the job description then DO IT! ...other wise shut the hell up Sheriff Shanahan or whatever you think you are!

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by diehard

And it was no secret that Haynesworth would not participate in voluntary off-season workouts, no matter who's coaching the team. I still wonder about the premature talk about switching to a 34 front.

How is it premature talk? Its been confirmed a thousand times that we're switching to a 3-4 front. The only question is how much 3-4 we'll actually run.

[tootergray34]

I hear that the Lions want him...anybody else see this as a double edged sword...cause if we trade him to the lions...we won't be able to lang Okung...b/c I think the Lions will take him at #2...right?

[Trample the Elderly]

Skins NOT shopping Big AL

And the moon is made out of cheese.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

I hear that the Lions want him...anybody else see this as a double edged sword...cause if we trade him to the lions...we won't be able to lang Okung...b/c I think the Lions will take him at #2...right?

I don't want okung in the first place. I want to make sure the Lions take him, so that either Suh or McCoy will be there at 4. Then we can easily trade down and acquire more picks.

[tootergray34]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I don't want okung in the first place. I want to make sure the Lions take him, so that either Suh or McCoy will be there at 4. Then we can easily trade down and acquire more picks.

Well played sir...how awesome would it be to land SF's multiple first round picks? that would be sweeeeet.

[SmootSmack]

You know what's ironic about him bashing Blache last year is that Blache was the guy who probably more than anyone pushed for the Skins to sign AH

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You know what's ironic about him bashing Blache last year is that Blache was the guy who probably more than anyone pushed for the Skins to sign AH

then double boo boo on Blache for pushing to sign him whilst knowing that he wouldn't use him correctly

I'm not some huge AH apologist but this is just getting blown up to ridiculous levels

[tootergray34]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

then double boo boo on Blache for pushing to sign him whilst knowing that he wouldn't use him correctly

I'm not some huge AH apologist but this is just getting blown up to ridiculous levels

couldn't agree more.

[tryfuhl]

What's wrong with him saying he doesn't think that he'd be best used at nose tackle, but he'd play where they put him?

Like I've said a million times, dude didn't know what the offseason program would be, probably had it already planned and maybe paid for well in advance of all of this.

AH didn't create the story, this shouldn't even be a damn story. If he feels that he can improve more doing it the way he has before, great. Unless you're there and able to professionally evaluate him and determine that he'd be better at the park then what's the issue? Show up for a couple of weeks.. he probably already has his trainer booked, you don't just sign a guy up for that the day before then tell him wait 2 weeks.

Maybe he gives a shit about himself because he realizes that he can improve himself. Yeah it'd be great to have him there but face it, he's not. That doesn't make him a horrible guy.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

What's wrong with him saying he doesn't think that he'd be best used at nose tackle, but he'd play where they put him?

Like I've said a million times, dude didn't know what the offseason program would be, probably had it already planned and maybe paid for well in advance of all of this.

AH didn't create the story, this shouldn't even be a damn story. If he feels that he can improve more doing it the way he has before, great. Unless you're there and able to professionally evaluate him and determine that he'd be better at the park then what's the issue? Show up for a couple of weeks.. he probably already has his trainer booked, you don't just sign a guy up for that the day before then tell him wait 2 weeks.

Maybe he gives a shit about himself because he realizes that he can improve himself. Yeah it'd be great to have him there but face it, he's not. That doesn't make him a horrible guy.

He is probably right but why can't his preference stay in house? Why does he have to tell Sirius radio?

I understand him wanting to use "his guy" to train but why couldn't he have come out here for a week or two or even bring his guy out here?

It is a story because Allen said the status quo is unacceptable and the team is selling a different culture but Al does whatever he wants.

I don't think he is a horrible guy. He is my favorite player to watch. I just think he is being totally selfish and that this controversy could have easily been prevented.

[tryfuhl]

His guy probably works with other clients as well, think my man.

He said he'd play where they wanted him but has a preference, to me that's not a big deal. People keep leaving out the first part it seems.