Washington Wizards 2010-2011 Ongoing Thread

[CooleyAsCanBe]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There's talk that a deal is in place that will send Vince Carter (and possibly some other bench player) to the Wizards for Randy Foye, Kirk Hinrich, and Al Thorton

I saw that Hoopsworld article, but for the life of me I can't understand why Orlando would do that unless Carter burned some bridges there with his poor play in the playoffs. Even then, it seems like Vince's ability, cache, and expiring contract is worth more than those three. Any real sources at ESPN confirming any of this?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CooleyAsCanBe

I saw that Hoopsworld article, but for the life of me I can't understand why Orlando would do that unless Carter burned some bridges there with his poor play in the playoffs. Even then, it seems like Vince's ability, cache, and expiring contract is worth more than those three. Any real sources at ESPN confirming any of this?

I had heard it from someone here that the Wizards and Magic have been seriously talking the past couple of days and the latest scenario is the one posted above.

But we're the fall back option for the Magic, they're trying to move Vinsanity for someone like a Chris Paul

[CooleyAsCanBe]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I had heard it from someone here that the Wizards and Magic have been seriously talking the past couple of days and the latest scenario is the one posted above.

But we're the fall back option for the Magic, they're trying to move Vinsanity for someone like a Chris Paul

Yeah, a buddy of mine and I were crunching numbers and convinced ourselves that the proposed Carter trade with the Wizards would be part of a larger three-team trade in which the Magic get Paul and Okafor and the Hornets get pieces like Gortat, Hinrich, and maybe Pietrus. I wouldn't mind renting Carter for a year. Armchair GMs.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There's talk that a deal is in place that will send Vince Carter (and possibly some other bench player) to the Wizards for Randy Foye, Kirk Hinrich, and Al Thorton

SS, is VC expiring? If so, this is a brilliant move- hands down.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

SS, is VC expiring? If so, this is a brilliant move- hands down.

Yeah. He's got one more year. $16M off the books. Gotta make room for Carmelo next summer.

[Monkeydad]

I heard this rumor before the Hinrich deal went down.

The team has a ton of guards, so the Hinrich deal served two purposes:

*Clear cap room for Chicago to get TWO max contract players, one being LeBron.
*Give the Bullets a trade piece.

I don't think there was ever an intention for Hinrich to play for Washington. He's been a great player (before Derrick Rose took his job) but he'll be moved.

[mredskins]

Vince Carter is awful after watching him against the Celtics this year my respect for the guy dropped big time. He is/was just a highlight reel.

[InsaneBoost]

Here we go, got the full video:

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

Here we go, got the full video:

Great stuff. John Wall, Stephen Strasburg, Bryce Harper, Alex Ovechkin, Donovan McNabb... Man, we really have some star power in this town. Finally.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Great stuff. John Wall, Stephen Strasburg, Bryce Harper, Alex Ovechkin, Donovan McNabb... Man, we really have some star power in this town. Finally.

The talent is great to see, but that commercial is stupid.

[SmootSmack]

The Wizards have traded Quinton Ross to the Nets for 7 footer Yi Jianlin

Yi Jianlian Stats, News, Photos - New Jersey Nets - ESPN

Not a bad move considering Blatche's broken foot.

What's interesting is that gives the Nets some more cap room. It almost seems like the Wizards are trying to help teams like the Bulls and Nets clear some cap room so some (all?) the big free agents don't end up in their division with the Heat

[CooleyAsCanBe]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Wizards have traded Quinton Ross to the Nets for 7 footer Yi Jianlin

Yi Jianlian Stats, News, Photos - New Jersey Nets - ESPN

Not a bad move considering Blatche's broken foot.

What's interesting is that gives the Nets some more cap room. It almost seems like the Wizards are trying to help teams like the Bulls and Nets clear some cap room so some (all?) the big free agents don't end up in their division with the Heat

I like the trade.

Ross wasn't going to give us anything, Yi's only got one year left on his contract, and we got $3 million in cash from the Nets. Yi's got some skill for a big, and just needs to show more toughness. I also like how he gives the Wiz a bridge to market themselves (particularly Wall) in China. I think Yi's nationality is what sealed the deal here.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Wizards have traded Quinton Ross to the Nets for 7 footer Yi Jianlin

Yi Jianlian Stats, News, Photos - New Jersey Nets - ESPN

Not a bad move considering Blatche's broken foot.

What's interesting is that gives the Nets some more cap room. It almost seems like the Wizards are trying to help teams like the Bulls and Nets clear some cap room so some (all?) the big free agents don't end up in their division with the Heat

YES!!! I most definetely approve of this move. Big men that can shoot are always welcome as far as I'm concerned. Also Yi seems like a great fit for Flips system which emphasizes mid range shots.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What's interesting is that gives the Nets some more cap room. It almost seems like the Wizards are trying to help teams like the Bulls and Nets clear some cap room so some (all?) the big free agents don't end up in their division with the Heat

You know, I thought about this fact for a bit. The Wizards seem to be the one team helping out everyone else with their salary cap in this FA flurry... but the more I thought about it, the more I see another angle. There's only so many top flight FAs to go around... Lebron, Wade, Bosh (top tier), then JJ-Amare-Boozer. Two, if not all three, of the top guys are going to end up playing together imo. If that happens, you're left with three or four teams who have all this cap space with the remaining FAs to sign. They're going to outbid each other, grossly overpaying for guys like Rudy Gay.

The Wiz are anticipating the FA fallout and a new CBA in a year. Meanwhile, stockpile players that are young, athletic, low-risk and short term... while being in a position of strength in two or three seasons when the other teams (who we 'helped' now) inevitably feel the bite from these bloated contracts.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What's interesting is that gives the Nets some more cap room. It almost seems like the Wizards are trying to help teams like the Bulls and Nets clear some cap room so some (all?) the big free agents don't end up in their division with the Heat

great way to look at it

why not?