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[joethiesmanfan]

U pretend millitary spending goes to a base. LOL!!! who are you trying to fool. Millitary spending goes to huge defense contractors. Solidiers get same pay.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

U pretend millitary spending goes to a base. LOL!!! who are you trying to fool. Millitary spending goes to huge defense contractors. Solidiers get same pay.

Do you really believe a fraction of the stuff that you post????? I would strongly suggest just a bit more research before posting because you often aren't putting yourself in the best light with many of your posts.

Those bases not only employ military personnel, but civilians in the local area and use local civilian contractors for many base support functions. Military bases bring in huge dollars to their local economies.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

U pretend millitary spending goes to a base. LOL!!! who are you trying to fool. Millitary spending goes to huge defense contractors. Solidiers get same pay.

Ok, so i didn't mention Northrupp Gruman or the other slew of contractors who are employed across from the USAFA or through out the region. Believe me when I say Colo Springs is a military and contractor economy.

[joethiesmanfan]

The War makes the deficit bigger, extermely bigger? Do deficits affect city budgets?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

The War makes the deficit bigger, extermely bigger? Do deficits affect city budgets?

Obama and the Dems are in control now and have been since Jan. 2009. Why don't they shut the wars down, they have the power and control?

Increases in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Interest on the national debt all make the deficit bigger not just the wars.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Obama and the Dems are in control now and have been since Jan. 2009. Why don't they shut the wars down, they have the power and control?

Increases in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Interest on the national debt all make the deficit bigger not just the wars.

they need to send more troops and finish this up

they need to withdraw

etc etc etc

no matter what the admin announces the opposing side isn't happy with it

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

The War makes the deficit bigger, extermely bigger? Do deficits affect city budgets?

I'm sure the federal deficit has some affect on city budgets but I don't think its a major factor. Hell if anything Obama has that 700 and some billion for boots on the ground projects so I guess your right that deficit adding pork has done very little to help states and cities creat jobs. I guess we have now come full circle.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm sure the federal deficit has some affect on city budgets but I don't think its a major factor. Hell if anything Obama has that 700 and some billion for boots on the ground projects so I guess your right that deficit adding pork has done very little to help states and cities creat jobs. I guess we have now come full circle.

What 700 billion you talking bout? The 700 billion Bush begged for on TV, for the Wall Street boys he left out. They didn't get in on the insane profit of his boys gasoline futures speculationo, or his Halliburton no bid contracts. They didn't get any of that Trillion. So he had to beg for another 700 billion to cover them.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

What 700 billion you talking bout? The 700 billion Bush begged for on TV, for the Wall Street boys he left out. They didn't get in on the insane profit of his boys gasoline futures speculationo, or his Halliburton no bid contracts. They didn't get any of that Trillion. So he had to beg for another 700 billion to cover them.

Are you drinking again. I'm talking about Mr Obama's stimulas package that was suppose to fix all the problems but has done pretty much nothing.

[Trample the Elderly]

War makes us poor.

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"War is a racket"
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War is a Racket

I still don't understand what this has to do with the TEA Party? As a matter of fact, this is what is dividing the TEA Party.

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This is a spat between us right-wingers. AKA the Conservatives, Neo-Cons, and the Libertarians, although the Neo-Cons are socialist IMO. You don't know what it is to be a right winger JTF. So stick to your poliburo talk with the rest of your heathen commie brethren.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Are you drinking again. I'm talking about Mr Obama's stimulas package that was suppose to fix all the problems but has done pretty much nothing.

Granted it's not a pic of 12thMan's girl, it still looks nice:

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Are you drinking again. I'm talking about Mr Obama's stimulas package that was suppose to fix all the problems but has done pretty much nothing.

do you forget all of the teachers , police, and fireman jobs that were saved?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

The War makes the deficit bigger, extermely bigger? Do deficits affect city budgets?

I don't understand your premise. Since the war makes the Federal debt larger it forces a mid sized city to cut "essential services"? Colorado Springs has a budget, it gets money from federal aid, state aid, and local taxes. The city managers have to manage the city with that sum of money. They told the taxpayers that they needed more, much more, and the residents said we don't trust what you are doing. Now the city says ok then we will cut these services and see what happens. For the purposes of the article the Federal Debt only impacts Colorado Springs as far as the interest rates on any bonds they offer, and loans they take out. Your war hypothesis just doesn't really fit into this whole equation, especially since war funding does actually help and not hurt a city like Colorado Springs.

[joethiesmanfan]

I am not arguing that millitary bases bring in money to local communities, they do. The money being spent on the War is mostly spent at Lockheed Martin, etc, not bases. Everytime they kill a Taliban, that's 10 million dollars please. The trillion dollars spent on the war this year has not made any solidiers richer. Hell thats enough to give every soliier how many dollars? They won't see it. Some CEO's bonus will be spent on some chick with the money we borrowed that is making our deficit stupid big.

[CRedskinsRule]

here is a subset from the greater colorado springs business journal(number in parenthesis is active businesses):

Dancing Instruction (1)
Data Storage (1)
Defense Contractors (27)
Defense Systems (6)
Delivery Service-Business & Personal (1)
Demolition (1)
here is the full link in case you want to check it:
The Greater Colorado Springs Chamber of Commerce

interestingly the only other category with more businesses (other than "preferred partners") is "Restaurants Bars and Nightclubs" which again from personal knowledge is highly dependent on military funding.