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Old 03-11-2005, 06:07 PM   #1
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Re: Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

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Considering how many people bitched about our WR corps last year, I find it surpring that people seem content with our current WR corps. Does anyone really think we've improved our offense with the loss of Coles and Gardner and the addition of Moss and Patten?
You're absolutely right. We're WAY worse off than we would have been. I think Moss is better than Gardner (we should have drafted him initially), but he has durability problems. Coles was good, but obviously unhappy. SO WHAT! We're taking a 9million dollar cap hit because the guy wasn't happy??!!! Lot's of people aren't happy at work. You make a commitment, you should stick it out. We didn't have the cap room to accomidate him and it was stupid to trade him. Even if we didn't trade him, we could have had cap room to pick up a guy through FA had he decided to sit.

My thought: We're set at QB, stick with Ramsey. We're GREAT at RB, Portis is going to be good for a long time. Our OL is good, no needs there. Our WRs STINK. That's by far the deficiency in our offense. Look at teams like the Rams, Even the Eagles with Owens, the Vikings (who's defense sucks), they all have good WRs. You need a good passing game to open up the run game. You become one dimensional, you can't do anything. Our defense is good enough; the glaring needs are at WR, start there.
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Old 03-12-2005, 10:58 AM   #2
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You're absolutely right. We're WAY worse off than we would have been. I think Moss is better than Gardner (we should have drafted him initially), but he has durability problems. Coles was good, but obviously unhappy. SO WHAT! We're taking a 9million dollar cap hit because the guy wasn't happy??!!! Lot's of people aren't happy at work. You make a commitment, you should stick it out. We didn't have the cap room to accomidate him and it was stupid to trade him. Even if we didn't trade him, we could have had cap room to pick up a guy through FA had he decided to sit.

My thought: We're set at QB, stick with Ramsey. We're GREAT at RB, Portis is going to be good for a long time. Our OL is good, no needs there. Our WRs STINK. That's by far the deficiency in our offense. Look at teams like the Rams, Even the Eagles with Owens, the Vikings (who's defense sucks), they all have good WRs. You need a good passing game to open up the run game. You become one dimensional, you can't do anything. Our defense is good enough; the glaring needs are at WR, start there.
What has Ramsey acutally proven????????? Nothing.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:45 PM   #3
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Re: Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

i stated in another forum a while ago:

Round1: Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
Round2 (trade down):Fabian Washington CB Nebraska
round3(gardner trade to cleveland):Matt Jones WR Arkansas
round3: Lorenzo Alexander DT California
round4:Chase Lyman WR California
round5:Martin Patterson MLB TCU
round6:Kelly Griffeth TE Fort Hays St
round7:Scott Young OG BYU

And that what I'm sticking to
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:49 PM   #4
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i stated in another forum a while ago:

Round1: Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
Round2 (trade down):Fabian Washington CB Nebraska
round3(gardner trade to cleveland):Matt Jones WR Arkansas
round3: Lorenzo Alexander DT California
round4:Chase Lyman WR California
round5:Martin Patterson MLB TCU
round6:Kelly Griffeth TE Fort Hays St
round7:Scott Young OG BYU

And that what I'm sticking to
You're on point! I am, however, tired of Matt Jones' name popping up. Get off of it.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:56 PM   #5
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Re: Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

BossHog:

Do you really think Alex Smith (TE Stanford) is going to be around in the third round? If he is, that might be the biggest steal of the day. I know folks here love the kid from UVa, but I think Alex Smith is at least as good and definitely has better hands.

Oh, and you had me confused for a moment with your entry "C Vince Carter Oklahoma" My first thought was Vince Carter is a forward and plays for the New Jersey Nets...
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:01 PM   #6
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Do you really think Alex Smith (TE Stanford) is going to be around in the third round? If he is, that might be the biggest steal of the day. I know folks here love the kid from UVa, but I think Alex Smith is at least as good and definitely has better hands...
I don't know if he is. But we do pick early in that round and the observed talent 'below' Heath Miller falls off pretty steeply. In other words, there maybe higher rated players at other position that teams may covet.
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:54 PM   #7
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I don't know if he is. But we do pick early in that round and the observed talent 'below' Heath Miller falls off pretty steeply. In other words, there maybe higher rated players at other position that teams may covet.
He'll be gone by the top of the second round. There's no way he'll last till the third.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:57 PM   #8
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Re: Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

Another thing about the CB position, I think we are set for this year with Springs/Harris, with Wilds at nickleback, but it would be great if we could do similar to what the Eagles did and have a couple young guys ready to take over for Springs and Harris in a year or a couple. I think Wilds may be one of those guys, and if we draft a CB in round 1 or 2, we'll have the other.
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Another thing about the CB position, I think we are set for this year with Springs/Harris, with Wilds at nickleback, but it would be great if we could do similar to what the Eagles did and have a couple young guys ready to take over for Springs and Harris in a year or a couple. I think Wilds may be one of those guys, and if we draft a CB in round 1 or 2, we'll have the other.
I like that idea. Hopefully we wouldnt have to do it like the Eagles did. If we could gradually work them in. That is the cheapest way to go.
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I like that idea. Hopefully we wouldnt have to do it like the Eagles did. If we could gradually work them in. That is the cheapest way to go.
That's the plan. Springs and Harris are very capable, but you can't ignore thier ages. Wilds and Jimoh will probably battle for the dime spot.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:46 PM   #11
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That's the question now. Of course Williams has had guys with the likes of Jevon Kearse, but as last year showed we could get plenty of pressure ont the QB with our LBs. I say we don't change a good thing. If we go with a guy like DT/DE tweener Shaun Cody (likely gone early in round one,but there are others), we should be just as good as we were last year up front. Remember we had guys like Chris Clemons, Demetric Evans and Ron Warner wrecking havoc. A guy like Matt Roth is considered an upgrade.
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That's the question now. Of course Williams has had guys with the likes of Jevon Kearse, but as last year showed we could get plenty of pressure ont the QB with our LBs. I say we don't change a good thing. If we go with a guy like DT/DE tweener Shaun Cody (likely gone early in round one,but there are others), we should be just as good as we were last year up front. Remember we had guys like Chris Clemons, Demetric Evans and Ron Warner wrecking havoc. A guy like Matt Roth is considered an upgrade.
I would be curious to hear Gregg Williams' opinion on this. Does he want an upgrade? Or does he find the cornerback situation more pressing. We can already assume that he probably doesnt care much about the Wide Outs.
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If the Redskins are stupid enough to pick a cornerback with the #9 overall pick then they truly are idiots. I don't think Joe Gibbs would be that stupid.
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If the Redskins are stupid enough to pick a cornerback with the #9 overall pick then they truly are idiots. I don't think Joe Gibbs would be that stupid.
If you're stupid enough for this to be your first post you are one too.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:43 AM   #15
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BossHog, It's more likely for us to draft a WR in the later rounds who's willing to be the return man and do the dirty work on special teams. Our draft priorities should reflect need
Return man????????? We have how many???????

Return man is the last thing we need in this upcoming draft.

Moss, Brown, Morton, as well as Bett's and Thrash, we must lead the NFL in return men.
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