HUGE difference from 2009 preseason to 2010 present!

GusFrerotte · 08-28-2010, 01:28 PM

Doesn't mean squat, like a few people in other threads have said Spurrier was 4-0 in preseason, that was enough for folks to figure out how to defend the Fun n Gun. Also your comparison of JC and the guys from this season is bunk. JC wasn't in any of the games long enough to really produce, while this preseason is more pass happy than others in recent memory. Also, why don't you do a comparison about the running game? Again that would be worthless since we are not running as often it seems this preseason, so ther fact that we have sucked at rushing so far is also a moot point. Bottom line is you can't compare the two years as there are too many different variables to take into account from 2009 to now.

SBXVII · 08-28-2010, 01:30 PM

Stats mean jack in preseason.

Your better off looking at the games themselves....

Look at the QB position and how there is better decision making. Look at the WR's and how they are getting seperation at the line of scrimmage, how they throw off the defender now with suttle moves for which Hixon failed to teach. The defense which was touted by both G.Williams and Blache to be a blitzing machine and ball hawking scheme, yet failed to get a good blitz and failed to create turnovers. I was very against Haslett with the understanding that his Rams and Saints sucked at defense. Hopefully I'm wrong and the defense continues to shine.

GusFrerotte · 08-28-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Stats mean jack in preseason.

Your better off looking at the games themselves....

Look at the QB position and how there is better decision making. Look at the WR's and how they are getting seperation at the line of scrimmage, how they throw off the defender now with suttle moves for which Hixon failed to teach. The defense which was touted by both G.Williams and Blache to be a blitzing machine and ball hawking scheme, yet failed to get a good blitz and failed to create turnovers. I was very against Haslett with the understanding that his Rams and Saints sucked at defense. Hopefully I'm wrong and the defense continues to shine.

SBXXVII is right, you have to look at each game by themselves, and also look at the individual and unit performances by themselves also. Preseason is just practice and an audition roled up into one within real game conditions.

backrow · 08-28-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Stats mean jack in preseason.

Your better off looking at the games themselves....

Look at the QB position and how there is better decision making. Look at the WR's and how they are getting seperation at the line of scrimmage, how they throw off the defender now with suttle moves for which Hixon failed to teach. The defense which was touted by both G.Williams and Blache to be a blitzing machine and ball hawking scheme, yet failed to get a good blitz and failed to create turnovers. I was very against Haslett with the understanding that his Rams and Saints sucked at defense. Hopefully I'm wrong and the defense continues to shine.

I'm still not sold on Haslett's D. Hopefully we are both wrong.

Pre Season is what it is. An evaluation of depth.

skinsfaninok · 08-28-2010, 03:01 PM

Chill out guys, all he is saying is there is a difference this year so far. Pre season isn't important but the effort of this team is. We have a new attitude going in to this season. Were tired of being the underdog in this division. In 2 weeks we will see a new era of solid football. No more laughing stock bull shit

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 08-28-2010, 03:16 PM

^^ Agreed Skins. This team is much improved over what it looked like last year.

Also to all those who say preseason doesn't matter in terms of wins and loses that is true, but at the same time like some one else said, if we look bad in the preseason we most likely carry that over to the regualar season where it does count.

We do have a passing attack this year.

The running game is up in the air but I will wait to determine how this is going to be come the regular season.

The Offensive line is holding up well in pass protection, preseason or not a hat on a hat blocking is nice to see.

I like the thread, but maybe not all the stats as most of us have seen them, but this does bring up a good topic to discuss.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 08-28-2010, 05:13 PM

beemnsevenspop... you are definately not drinking any Koolaid are you. more like some sour ass the redskins suck Koolaid....

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 08-28-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

beemnsevenspop... you are definately not drinking any Koolaid are you. more like some sour ass the redskins suck Koolaid....

he may have been refering to this.

SmootSmack · 08-28-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

he may have been refering to this.

Yeah i know

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 08-28-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah i know

sorry o great one... i forget you see all sometimes.

SmootSmack · 08-29-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

sorry o great one... i forget you see all sometimes.

Ha! Apology accepted

saden1 · 08-28-2010, 05:50 PM

Does anyone else feel like our players are mentally sharper?

FRPLG · 08-28-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Does anyone else feel like our players are mentally sharper?

Yes. The best thing I have seen is that our efforts look actually professionally competent. It seems to me in the past we (the fans and the team) felt like we were a good enough team to win 10+ games every season...if we execute perfectly and stay healthy. With this team and regime I feel like we don't necessarily have to be perfect to be competitive. It's funny how a change in approach brings a team to another level. Maybe we only win7 or so games hits year...but it'll be because we have some talent gaps...it wont be because we're out-coached, out-efforted or unprepared.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 08-28-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Yes. The best thing I have seen is that our efforts look actually professionally competent. It seems to me in the past we (the fans and the team) felt like we were a good enough team to win 10+ games every season...if we execute perfectly and stay healthy. With this team and regime I feel like we don't necessarily have to be perfect to be competitive. It's funny how a change in approach brings a team to another level. Maybe we only win7 or so games hits year...but it'll be because we have some talent gaps...it wont be because we're out-coached, out-efforted or unprepared.

I agree 100%.

NYCskinfan82 · 08-29-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Yes. The best thing I have seen is that our efforts look actually professionally competent. It seems to me in the past we (the fans and the team) felt like we were a good enough team to win 10+ games every season...if we execute perfectly and stay healthy. With this team and regime I feel like we don't necessarily have to be perfect to be competitive. It's funny how a change in approach brings a team to another level. Maybe we only win7 or so games hits year...but it'll be because we have some talent gaps...it wont be because we're out-coached, out-efforted or unprepared.

This is why I'm so excited about this season. The FO knows how to prepare, execute, & make adjustments to a game plan.

HTTR.

08-28-2010, 01:28 PM	#1
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: HUGE difference from 2009 preseason to 2010 present! Doesn't mean squat, like a few people in other threads have said Spurrier was 4-0 in preseason, that was enough for folks to figure out how to defend the Fun n Gun. Also your comparison of JC and the guys from this season is bunk. JC wasn't in any of the games long enough to really produce, while this preseason is more pass happy than others in recent memory. Also, why don't you do a comparison about the running game? Again that would be worthless since we are not running as often it seems this preseason, so ther fact that we have sucked at rushing so far is also a moot point. Bottom line is you can't compare the two years as there are too many different variables to take into account from 2009 to now.

08-28-2010, 01:30 PM	#2
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: HUGE difference from 2009 preseason to 2010 present! Stats mean jack in preseason. Your better off looking at the games themselves.... Look at the QB position and how there is better decision making. Look at the WR's and how they are getting seperation at the line of scrimmage, how they throw off the defender now with suttle moves for which Hixon failed to teach. The defense which was touted by both G.Williams and Blache to be a blitzing machine and ball hawking scheme, yet failed to get a good blitz and failed to create turnovers. I was very against Haslett with the understanding that his Rams and Saints sucked at defense. Hopefully I'm wrong and the defense continues to shine.

08-28-2010, 03:01 PM	#5
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,177	Re: HUGE difference from 2009 preseason to 2010 present! Chill out guys, all he is saying is there is a difference this year so far. Pre season isn't important but the effort of this team is. We have a new attitude going in to this season. Were tired of being the underdog in this division. In 2 weeks we will see a new era of solid football. No more laughing stock bull shit __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

08-28-2010, 03:16 PM	#6
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: HUGE difference from 2009 preseason to 2010 present! ^^ Agreed Skins. This team is much improved over what it looked like last year. Also to all those who say preseason doesn't matter in terms of wins and loses that is true, but at the same time like some one else said, if we look bad in the preseason we most likely carry that over to the regualar season where it does count. We do have a passing attack this year. The running game is up in the air but I will wait to determine how this is going to be come the regular season. The Offensive line is holding up well in pass protection, preseason or not a hat on a hat blocking is nice to see. I like the thread, but maybe not all the stats as most of us have seen them, but this does bring up a good topic to discuss. __________________ Just win.

08-28-2010, 05:13 PM	#7
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: HUGE difference from 2009 preseason to 2010 present! beemnsevenspop... you are definately not drinking any Koolaid are you. more like some sour ass the redskins suck Koolaid.... __________________ Just win.

08-28-2010, 05:50 PM	#12
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: HUGE difference from 2009 preseason to 2010 present! Does anyone else feel like our players are mentally sharper? __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

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