DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Add one "e" and it's "Korean" maybe? Side note, Firstdown spells Quran with at least two f's, one z and possibly a j.

Its chourann. Its funny now the president is getting involved.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

It has been transliterated in several different forms, your example being one of them. I believe that the most "accepted" as far as beliefs/accuracy goes is "Qur'an" but I could be mistaken.

lol @ Koran as in Korea.. where were you going with that?

You are correct. Qur'an is the most faithful transliteration for the Arabic title, which means "recitation" in English. Transliterating Arabic into English is difficult since there is not a one-to-one correspondence between sounds. Hence the many versions of English spellings.

[mlmpetert]

Like most people i think that this is pretty dumb just because its disrespectful and doesn’t benefit anyone. Like even more people i also think its EXTREMELY stupid because many Muslims are literally going to go nuts. But i started thinking about it in just the sense that its going to cause Muslims to go nuts, and I’m not entirely sure how I feel about it now.

This kind of stuff is going to keep happening no matter if we agree with it or not. There were the Cartoon Riots a few years back, there was Draw Mohammad Day last year, there’s Burn a Koran Day this year, there is going to be something next year and so on. I honestly don’t think it will ever stop, people do these things because they know it will get a big reaction, because it the Western Culture’s eyes murdering someone or suicide bombing people over an act of expression like this is considered overreacting. But in many Muslim’s eyes that isn’t overreacting. So whats going to happen? Are we going to make special rules and laws about being extra sensitive with regards to Muslims? Are Muslims going to realize that their overacting?

Here are a bunch of quotes from around the world condemning the burring, including 2 from people that Westerns view as crazy people:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/09/florida.quran.reactions/

A spokesman for the Taliban in Afghanistan tells CNN: "If in Florida they were to burn the Quran, we will target any Christians, even if they are innocent, because the Quran is our holy book and we do not want someone to burn our holy book."

A senior Iranian Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Lotfollah Safi Golpayegani, condemned the plan to burn the Quran and called for the arrest of Jones, head of the Dove World Outreach Center, according to Iran's semi-official Fars news agency. Should such an "inhumane incident take place in America, the U.S. government and President Obama will be held responsible," he said, according to the report.

The above messages are irrational in Westerns’ minds. Honestly I dont think interacting with fundamentalist Muslims is ever going to work unless one of us changes our values. And I don’t think that’s going to happen in any of our lifetimes. I don’t think there is any common ground between are values.

So I guess im not sure how I feel about it because I think its important that we realize that we are not going to eventually just get along, that one day we can agree to disagree, that we can both have our cake and eat it too. Dumb people like this pastor are going to continue to do things to incite Muslims, I feel like we just need to accept that as part of life. There’s nothing we can really do about it or more importantly should want to do about it because that means compromising our values and principles.

[SmootSmack]

It's a community center with a prayer room, not a mosque. And the way some people talk you'd think a theme park reenacting planes flying into buildings was being built. Not sure I'll ever understand the connection between building this center and burning a holy book.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's a community center with a prayer room, not a mosque. And the way some people talk you'd think a theme park reenacting planes flying into buildings was being built. Not sure I'll ever understand the connection between building this center and burning a holy book.

The image of that is pretty funny, actually.
Not sure about the book burning thing as well. No good can come from that.
If they had any concern for what anyone else really thought....especially with the NATIONWIDE blow up over the issue, they would be better served building their.....reading room, library, community center, munitions laboratory...elsewhere.
It seems being a good neighbor is not part of the equation, or at least concern for what their neighbors think?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's a community center with a prayer room, not a mosque. And the way some people talk you'd think a theme park reenacting planes flying into buildings was being built. Not sure I'll ever understand the connection between building this center and burning a holy book.

That's b/c you're a rational human being. Unfortunately for the (I believe) vast majority of rational, truth seeking, religious individuals, a large segment of people warp religious concepts to their own hateful, irrational way of thinking (and BB - don't kid yourself, if "religion" didn't exist these same irrational individuals would find some other way to bond and group themselves in order to justify their killing of people different than themselves or whatever hateful agenda they came up. You know - like marxism).

Two of my favorite post 9-11 Articles from the Onion really make the point so well:

God Angrily Clarifies 'Don't Kill' Rule | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Truthfully, in my opinion, that issue of the Onion was their absolute finest hour. It is well worth a reread as we approach Saturday: Issue 3734 - 09.26.2001 | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

[firstdown]

The problem is that the Mosque also represents the other bad half that we are still fighting. When its built there will be some celebrating the fact that this Mosque was built where it is and I think we don't need that. I also think that some of the donations will come from groups that hate us and would love to see the Mosque built. Why take the risk because if that happened it could get real ugly.

[Hog1]

There you have it! Fundamentalist nutjob muslims win by a landslide.
This may cast some doubt on the Olive branch project. On the bright side only half will draw and fire. The other half might take the Olive Branch.....not a problem

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Hog1

There you have it! Fundamentalist nutjob muslims win by a landslide.
This may cast some doubt on the Olive branch project. On the bright side only half will draw and fire. The other half might take the Olive Branch.....not a problem

You wanna put operation "An Eye For An Eye" into effect?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by saden1

You wanna to put operation "An Eye For An Eye" into effect?

I......wanna do what makes sense. If the Olive branch will work, I'm on it.
If it will not we need to use the tools at our disposal as is necessary. If you look to some of our brothers and sisters in Europe, they are having some fun with the muslim communities. I would hate to have that dilemma....plague the USA.

[BleedBurgundy]

This needs derailed.

Can we all now agree that the best solution for all involved is to remove all religion? No more muslims, christians, hindu, jews, you name it, no mas. We can gather all of the holy books together and have a big pig roast (the now ex-muslims would love this, as they would get the chance to see that pork is delicious). We'd certainly have less to bitch at each other about. Then we could divide society down important lines, like Redskins fans vs. Cowboys fans. And Eagles fans, or as they would be known in this future utopian society, the homeless.
:FIREdevil:headbange:FIREdevil:headbange:FIREdevil :headbange

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

This needs derailed.

Can we all now agree that the best solution for all involved is to remove all religion? No more muslims, christians, hindu, jews, you name it, no mas. We can gather all of the holy books together and have a big pig roast (the now ex-muslims would love this, as they would get the chance to see that pork is delicious). We'd certainly have less to bitch at each other about. Then we could divide society down important lines, like Redskins fans vs. Cowboys fans. And Eagles fans, or as they would be known in this future utopian society, the homeless.
:FIREdevil:headbange:FIREdevil:headbange:FIREdevil :headbange

Says the guy with the PJ5 avatar.....J/K

If we did that then we would look like India's caste system with the Cowpuke fans on the bottom of the totem pole, slightly below the Iggles fans.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

Come on, think big, think First Emperor of the United States of America!

The first emperor of the United Empire! When do u disband the senate?

[Hog1]

BTW...Quran is one of the currently accepted spellings of the Koran....allegedly.

[tryfuhl]

yeah lol just figured if he thought that was our mixup it was very obvious.. or no reason to really post it as most of us know how to spell Korea.. maybe he thought that we thought that it was Qurea or something

I believe firstdown spells Quran "blazfimmy!"