Santana Moss at $5+ Million Per Season?

Monksdown · 03-23-2005, 12:57 PM

Im with you. Who sees Santana here in 2007??? Not me.

David Patten on the other hand. Something about him makes me think we should be really excited, and that we are all going to like him for 5 more years.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2005, 01:00 PM

I'd love to see Patten turn into a Monk-esque person who we can just depend on to catch the ball and do his job. Being completely premature in my judgement, I'm going to say that he SEEMS like he is the Cornelius Griffin of the offense. (Hopefully) Gets the job done and has the character to go with it.

SkinsRock · 03-23-2005, 01:57 PM

Ok, from how I understand it, Gibbs is involved in the players the team chooses to pursue, but the money side is not handled by Gibbs. It is primarily handled by Snyder in conjunction with the cap expert. Not to say that Gibbs isn't involved, but he isn't really the one to blame (or praise) when it comes to contracts. Snyder pretty much made himself a billionaire from nothing, so I'm sure he knows about how to manage money.
If I hear one more person say "we need a GM" I think I'm gonna puke...oh wait... :vomit-smi

As for this rumoured contract for Moss, I agree that it is too rich for what he has shown, especially since he is already on the team, but I do agree with locking him up long-term. Question: How many big seasons (1000+ yards) did Coles have when we took him from the Jets? ONE! But then again, I realize we had to give him a big contract to keep the Jets from matching....and we already have Moss...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-23-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsRock

Question: How many big seasons (1000+ yards) did Coles have when we took him from the Jets? ONE! But then again, I realize we had to give him a big contract to keep the Jets from matching....and we already have Moss...

Coles' numbers and durability were much more solid when we signed him than Moss' are now.

Moreover, as of now, Coles has started 67 games (38 more than Moss), caught 342 passes (192 more than Moss) for 4656 yards (2,240 more than Moss), 20 TDs (1 more than Moss), and 70 passes (31 more than Moss) for 20 yards or more.

Both Moss and Coles wanted out of their organizations. Given the above stats, who got the better end of the deal?

SkinsRock · 03-23-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Coles' numbers and durability were much more solid when we signed him than Moss' are now.

Moreover, as of now, Coles has started 67 games (38 more than Moss), caught 342 passes (192 more than Moss) for 4656 yards (2,240 more than Moss), 20 TDs (1 more than Moss), and 70 passes (31 more than Moss) for 20 yards or more.

Both Moss and Coles wanted out of their organizations. Given the above stats, who got the better end of the deal?

Well Coles basically got two rich contracts within two years, so I'd say Coles. If you're talking about which team, that question cannot be answered until after this coming season.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2005, 01:01 PM

I also agree Moss won't be here in a few years, especially if we sign Williams.

SkinsRock · 03-23-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I also agree Moss won't be here in a few years, especially if we sign Williams.

Prediction: The Redskins will NOT draft a WR before the third or fourth round.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-23-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsRock

Prediction: The Redskins will NOT draft a WR before the third or fourth round.

I agree. I think the 'Skins will go for a CB with their top pick.

celts32 · 03-23-2005, 01:43 PM

Why do the Redskins seem to negotiate against themselves? The market for Moss is very lukewarm at best. His own team saw him as a #3 WR, yet the Skins will pay him 5 mil a season? You can tell by the overall leaguewide reaction to the coles/moss trade that the league as a whole does not have a lot of respect for Moss. Even with Coles bad foot the perception was that the Jets got the better of the trade. So how in the world would the redskins hand Moss a contract that is far above his market value? Then on the other hand they play hard ball with two of their own players when there is a market for them in the league. Puzzling...

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2005, 02:23 PM

I'd be fine with a CB. I just think that if Williams is available we should take him.

03-23-2005, 12:57 PM	#1
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 1,515	Re: Santana Moss at $5+ Million Per Season? Im with you. Who sees Santana here in 2007??? Not me. David Patten on the other hand. Something about him makes me think we should be really excited, and that we are all going to like him for 5 more years.

03-23-2005, 01:00 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Santana Moss at $5+ Million Per Season? I'd love to see Patten turn into a Monk-esque person who we can just depend on to catch the ball and do his job. Being completely premature in my judgement, I'm going to say that he SEEMS like he is the Cornelius Griffin of the offense. (Hopefully) Gets the job done and has the character to go with it. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-23-2005, 01:01 PM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Santana Moss at $5+ Million Per Season? I also agree Moss won't be here in a few years, especially if we sign Williams. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-23-2005, 01:43 PM	#9
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Santana Moss at $5+ Million Per Season? Why do the Redskins seem to negotiate against themselves? The market for Moss is very lukewarm at best. His own team saw him as a #3 WR, yet the Skins will pay him 5 mil a season? You can tell by the overall leaguewide reaction to the coles/moss trade that the league as a whole does not have a lot of respect for Moss. Even with Coles bad foot the perception was that the Jets got the better of the trade. So how in the world would the redskins hand Moss a contract that is far above his market value? Then on the other hand they play hard ball with two of their own players when there is a market for them in the league. Puzzling...

03-23-2005, 02:23 PM	#10
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Santana Moss at $5+ Million Per Season? I'd be fine with a CB. I just think that if Williams is available we should take him. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-23-2005, 01:57 PM	#3
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Re: Santana Moss at $5+ Million Per Season? Ok, from how I understand it, Gibbs is involved in the players the team chooses to pursue, but the money side is not handled by Gibbs. It is primarily handled by Snyder in conjunction with the cap expert. Not to say that Gibbs isn't involved, but he isn't really the one to blame (or praise) when it comes to contracts. Snyder pretty much made himself a billionaire from nothing, so I'm sure he knows about how to manage money. If I hear one more person say "we need a GM" I think I'm gonna puke...oh wait... :vomit-smi As for this rumoured contract for Moss, I agree that it is too rich for what he has shown, especially since he is already on the team, but I do agree with locking him up long-term. Question: How many big seasons (1000+ yards) did Coles have when we took him from the Jets? ONE! But then again, I realize we had to give him a big contract to keep the Jets from matching....and we already have Moss...

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