Question that needs an answer before the night is over

Dirtbag59 · 10-03-2010, 09:14 PM

*cough* *cough* help

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 10-03-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

*cough* *cough* help

I guess everyone wants you to die.

SportsFanatic · 10-03-2010, 10:11 PM

I guess I just never been big on giving a QB time on 3rd and 11. I want drives to end so we get the ball back and add to the lead.

My point is when kolb frst entered the game he had no confidence so why not keep him feeling that way and go after him? He was able to settle in and relax once h was able to dink and dunk and no longer looked scared.

aceinthehouse · 10-03-2010, 09:15 PM

When you blitz,there's a lot of reward at a big risk.

Haslet was trying to keep the ball in front of the defense with the eagles out of TO's with under a minute or so to go.

More likely,when you blitz and the QB hits his man..is a big gainer if not a TD. That's why.

and with the WR's the eagles have,I don't blame haslet at all for playing soft with a 5 pt lead.
Yes.they were dinkin' and dunkin' but they were 5,6,7 yard dunks...as time was ticking..

We blitz heavy and Kolb hits jackson on a 5 yard crossing route over the middle like bradford was doing and it's 6 pt's and eagles win.

We didn't play GREAT,but we were a hell of a lot better than we've played in the last 2 weeks.
I was very impressed with our run defense as well.

Hey guys...we're 2-2 with a 2-0 Division record and 2-1 conference record and the packers coming to our yard man!!

Oh..and now we got BB! Our very own Devin Hester

pg86 · 10-03-2010, 09:29 PM

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Why in the hell did the skins not blitz kevin kolb not ONE TIME once he entered the game? I mean they just let him sit back there and dink and dunk his way down the field and came very close to losing the game because of this stupid defensve strategy.

Did anyone else besides me almost have a STROKE on the last play of the game?

any old joe can answer this....

Its because Phili has Desean Jackson!

Lotus · 10-03-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pg86

any old joe can answer this....

Its because Phili has Desean Jackson!

Yes. And they beat us with a couple of screens early in the game, so anyone with a brain is going to rein in the blitzes.

NYCskinfan82 · 10-03-2010, 09:39 PM

I think are DF was better, the sheagles only took what we gave them no big plays and they only got the middle of the field 5 to 20yds.

mooby · 10-03-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsFanatic

Why in the hell did the skins not blitz kevin kolb not ONE TIME once he entered the game? I mean they just let him sit back there and dink and dunk his way down the field and came very close to losing the game because of this stupid defensve strategy.

Did anyone else besides me almost have a STROKE on the last play of the game?

The answer to your question is because Kolb is an unknown. Last week Sam Bradford was certainly not known as a big play quarterback but he was extremely effective against our blitzes because he knew they were coming.

Granted Kolb was effective towards the end but when you have an unknown like Kolb you don't blitz, especially not when you have big play receivers like DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin out there. Did you not notice how they were shutdown? In the end we gave up 12 poins and we won. Much improved over blitzing Bradford all last game and we gave up 30 and we lost.

What happened if we blitzed and he got it out there quick and Jackson beat our secondary for a touchdown? Would you be on here questioning the blitz?

Btw the Skins did blitz 5 on one play, and the result was an incomplete pass. So we did blitz him once. Idk if you've been watching the past two weeks but everybody and their mothers knew Jim Haslett was blitzing and that's why the Texans and Rams were so effective against us. If Kolb did his work this past week I'm sure he was prepared to be heavily blitzed even though he knew he wasn't starting.

SportsFanatic · 10-03-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

The answer to your question is because Kolb is an unknown. Last week Sam Bradford was certainly not known as a big play quarterback but he was extremely effective against our blitzes because he knew they were coming.

Granted Kolb was effective towards the end but when you have an unknown like Kolb you don't blitz, especially not when you have big play receivers like DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin out there. Did you not notice how they were shutdown? In the end we gave up 12 poins and we won. Much improved over blitzing Bradford all last game and we gave up 30 and we lost.

What happened if we blitzed and he got it out there quick and Jackson beat our secondary for a touchdown? Would you be on here questioning the blitz?

Btw the Skins did blitz 5 on one play, and the result was an incomplete pass. So we did blitz him once. Idk if you've been watching the past two weeks but everybody and their mothers knew Jim Haslett was blitzing and that's why the Texans and Rams were so effective against us. If Kolb did his work this past week I'm sure he was prepared to be heavily blitzed even though he knew he wasn't starting.

Well if Jim Haslett doesn't know how to disguise a blitz then he shouldn't be employed.

mooby · 10-03-2010, 10:19 PM

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Well if Jim Haslett doesn't know how to disguise a blitz then he shouldn't be employed.

That's a very simplistic view of it. And if Jim Haslett doesn't know how to disguise a blitz, you are right, I wouldn't want him coaching my team knowing how much he blitzes. But the 3-4 is supposed to be very effective at disguising the blitz because you don't know if it's the LOLB or the ROLB who's coming. You know the blitz is coming, but you don't know where. That's what the 3-4 provides.

Nobody said he has to blitz though. That worked in our favor tonight, because if Kolb expected us to blitz when he went in, well obviously we didn't, and we won because of it.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-03-2010, 10:27 PM

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Well if Jim Haslett doesn't know how to disguise a blitz then he shouldn't be employed.

How about our OC who has 1st-GL from the 3 and calls a couple gimmick plays to a guy just put back on the roster this week.....when we just slammed the ball down the Iggles throats a few minutes prior.

How about our special team "guru" whose units have been far from adequate for the last three years at least.

SportsFanatic · 10-03-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

How about our OC who has 1st-GL from the 3 and calls a couple gimmick plays to a guy just put back on the roster this week.....when we just slammed the ball down the Iggles throats a few minutes prior.

How about our special team "guru" whose units have been far from adequate for the last three years at least.

The OC was kind of foolish too when h called a 60 yd pass on
3rd and 8 in the 4th qtr.

CRedskinsRule · 10-03-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsFanatic

The OC was kind of foolish too when h called a 60 yd pass on
3rd and 8 in the 4th qtr.

We made a similar play earlier, and I am guessing, either McNabb or KS knew of an Iggles corners tendency to jump the short route on those plays.

mooby · 10-03-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsFanatic

The OC was kind of foolish too when h called a 60 yd pass on
3rd and 8 in the 4th qtr.

Well to honestly think that was his only option on that play is kind of ridiculous. I'm sure he had a secondary option, probably with a shallow to mid type route he could've gone to, and then probably a third option if he needed to check it down, but in the end it was McNabb's decision to go long because he thought he had Armstrong open. I would've preferred to have a deep inside post rather than an straight deep route just to give Armstrong more room to work with but in the end does it matter? We won.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-03-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsFanatic

The OC was kind of foolish too when h called a 60 yd pass on
3rd and 8 in the 4th qtr.

Yup, but at the end of the day we got the win. There's plenty of improvement to be made in all three phases of the game.

If we're finger pointing at coaches, I'm pointing more at KS than at Haslett. Haslett hasn't been great, but he's making adjustments. Once KS gets off his original script.....well 3 points over 45 min says it all and we saw the same thing against Houston and STL.

I'm still seeing little creativity in the run game when there's so much we could be doing. This ain't Houston, and ain't the AFC South (dome, good weather, good weather, and Tenn). In the NFC East you must be able to run the ball and find many different ways to do it. KS needs to get to adapting or we'll struggle offensively all year.

10-03-2010, 09:14 PM	#1
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Question that needs an answer before the night is over cough cough help __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

10-03-2010, 10:11 PM	#3
SportsFanatic Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 53	Re: Question that needs an answer before the night is over I guess I just never been big on giving a QB time on 3rd and 11. I want drives to end so we get the ball back and add to the lead. My point is when kolb frst entered the game he had no confidence so why not keep him feeling that way and go after him? He was able to settle in and relax once h was able to dink and dunk and no longer looked scared.

10-03-2010, 09:15 PM	#4
aceinthehouse Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Springfield,Missouri Posts: 463	Re: Question that needs an answer before the night is over When you blitz,there's a lot of reward at a big risk. Haslet was trying to keep the ball in front of the defense with the eagles out of TO's with under a minute or so to go. More likely,when you blitz and the QB hits his man..is a big gainer if not a TD. That's why. and with the WR's the eagles have,I don't blame haslet at all for playing soft with a 5 pt lead. Yes.they were dinkin' and dunkin' but they were 5,6,7 yard dunks...as time was ticking.. We blitz heavy and Kolb hits jackson on a 5 yard crossing route over the middle like bradford was doing and it's 6 pt's and eagles win. We didn't play GREAT,but we were a hell of a lot better than we've played in the last 2 weeks. I was very impressed with our run defense as well. Hey guys...we're 2-2 with a 2-0 Division record and 2-1 conference record and the packers coming to our yard man!! Oh..and now we got BB! Our very own Devin Hester __________________ The 1991 Redskins team,is the greatest team of all time. Their average margin of victory is the greatest of all Superbowl winning teams! HTTR!!

10-03-2010, 09:39 PM	#7
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 56 Posts: 3,803	Re: Question that needs an answer before the night is over I think are DF was better, the sheagles only took what we gave them no big plays and they only got the middle of the field 5 to 20yds.

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