On Brian Orakpo and holding

[freddyg12]

In today's post:

washingtonpost.com

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

In today's post:

washingtonpost.com

Was going to point that out. Seems pretty humble to me...

[MTK]

When you beat your man around the corner and he clotheslines you in a last ditch desperation effort, I'm really not sure how Rak is supposed to "fight through". And I'm not sure why some view drawing all the holding calls as a negative.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

When you beat your man around the corner and he clotheslines you in a last ditch desperation effort, I'm really not sure how Rak is supposed to "fight through". And I'm not sure why some view drawing all the holding calls as a negative.

.......as I said look back at some old LT and Joe Jacoby film.

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

When you beat your man around the corner and he clotheslines you in a last ditch desperation effort, I'm really not sure how Rak is supposed to "fight through". And I'm not sure why some view drawing all the holding calls as a negative.

It's three elite passrushers that he can watch and learn from... D-Ware, T. Suggs, and Freeney. When these guys get around their man, they do this low lean underneath the tackle's outside shoulder. When Rak beats his man, he is rushing around the end standing too high. That's how he winds up getting clothslined. Once he learns to hit the corner LEANING LOW, then he too will become an elite passrusher.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

It's three elite passrushers that he can watch and learn from... D-Ware, T. Suggs, and Freeney. When these guys get around their man, they do this low lean underneath the tackle's outside shoulder. When Rak beats his man, he is rushing around the end standing too high. That's how he winds up getting clothslined. Once he learns to hit the corner LEANING LOW, then he too will become an elite passrusher.

.........or three of the best in the history of the NFL...........Derrick Thomas,LT and Reggie White

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.........or three of the best in the history of the NFL...........Derrick Thomas,LT and Reggie White

Reggie White didn't need a lean. He could just maul you like a bear. Lol!

[MTK]

Rak is also averaging 4 hurries per game. Let's see how we can pick apart and discredit that stat shall we?

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Rak is also averaging 4 hurries per game. Let's see how we can pick apart and discredit that stat shall we?

No argument with you with the QB hurries, because that is a LEGIT stat.

[mlmdub130]

while it's nice he is getting some holding calls, he needs to learn how to get off those holds and get a sack, which will come in time. rak is still learning this is only his 5th game in his second season. he will be a sack machine and a perrenial pro bowler in due time, he is too gifted and focused to not succeed. i really think he is gonna have a multiple sack game tomorrow against green bay too.

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

while it's nice he is getting some holding calls, he needs to learn how to get off those holds and get a sack.

Again, my man B-Mitch spoke about this. Some people don't realize that you can LEARN how to keep a man from holding you.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

Again, my man B-Mitch spoke about this. Some people don't realize that you can LEARN how to keep a man from holding you.

Yeah, now's a good time for him to learn the swim move, spin move, and other ways of using his hands to overcome holding.

[apiatt]

I think, instead of criticizing Rak, for not getting off of holds, how about holding the rest of the d-line/pass rushers to higher standard? If there was anyone else getting the the QB nearly as often as Rak, the non-calls wouldn't be as big of deal. The pressure that makes the quaterback move in the pocket should allow other rushers to have sack opportunities. Rak is doing a fine job, to think you can teach a player how to shed a block when he is being held on to seems a bit much too ask. Pressure from ANYONE else would make these non-calls moot.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by apiatt

I think, instead of criticizing Rak, for not getting off of holds, how about holding the rest of the d-line/pass rushers to higher standard? If there was anyone else getting the the QB nearly as often as Rak, the non-calls wouldn't be as big of deal. The pressure that makes the quaterback move in the pocket should allow other rushers to have sack opportunities. Rak is doing a fine job, to think you can teach a player how to shed a block when he is being held on to seems a bit much too ask. Pressure from ANYONE else would make these non-calls moot.

Excellent point. For all the attention Orakpo is drawing they must be ignoring someone

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by apiatt

I think, instead of criticizing Rak, for not getting off of holds, how about holding the rest of the d-line/pass rushers to higher standard? If there was anyone else getting the the QB nearly as often as Rak, the non-calls wouldn't be as big of deal. The pressure that makes the quaterback move in the pocket should allow other rushers to have sack opportunities. Rak is doing a fine job, to think you can teach a player how to shed a block when he is being held on to seems a bit much too ask. Pressure from ANYONE else would make these non-calls moot.

Exactly. Outside of Albert and Rak, we have no one worth holding. Golston can easily get owned by double teams and he WAS INDEED being BLOWN UP by the LIONS RG last year.
Carriker is a nice space eater, but he's not that athletic.
Kemo is still not 100%
Holliday is just there because he knows what he's doing
Carter doesn't make too much noise
Jarmon may or may not be something, but he's only played one game.