NFL Might Suspend Players for Violent Hits

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I don't know about that. Many of his greatest knockout hits, Taylor led with his shoulder (Crayton hit at Dallas to preserve the win in 2005 / Reggie Brown hit on Monday night in Philly in 2007, etc). Just because a hit is vicious, it shouldn't necessarily be deemed illegal, especially if the defender is making a solid form tackle.

Excellent point. I don't understand why people are up in arms about this. Helmet to helmet tackles are just not a good idea. Players need to go back to tackling fundamentals and wrap up the guy you are tackling. This showboating crap is what's causing these injuries and a lot of the crapping tackling that's happening in the league.

[jamf]

This is a bullshit rule.
They are only doing this to make it look like they care for the players while trying to push the season to 18 games.

I can't believe they would make a rule and implement it so quickly.

[aceinthehouse]

And what about the "devastating hit" on Vick?

The Vick sandwich? That was devastating...Does Hall and Rogers get suspended for hurting vick?

I think this is a terrible rule and will change football forever imo..

What happens when Commercial money maker Troy Palamalu leads with his helmet? Will they just..."let that go" because of who he is?

But guys like Landry get suspended...?

And what about Lorenzo or Sellers devastating blows on Special teams that we see every game that destroys the Kick/Punt returner? Will Alexander get suspended...?

Does Fletcher get suspended for that nice hit the other night that caused that fumble on the return?
That was devastating?

It's getting out of hand...
Not the hits,but the rules imo

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

And what about the "devastating hit" on Vick?

The Vick sandwich? That was devastating...Does Hall and Rogers get suspended for hurting vick?

I think this is a terrible rule and will change football forever imo..

What happens when Commercial money maker Troy Palamalu leads with his helmet? Will they just..."let that go" because of who he is?

But guys like Landry get suspended...?

And what about Lorenzo or Sellers devastating blows on Special teams that we see every game that destroys the Kick/Punt returner? Will Alexander get suspended...?

Does Fletcher get suspended for that nice hit the other night that caused that fumble on the return?
That was devastating?

It's getting out of hand...
Not the hits,but the rules imo

Guy's the rules are not changing. The only thing that will change is how they deal with hits to the head and neck of a defenceless player. The rule is there and all they want to do is add teeth to the rule. So if you go up and hit a WR going for the ball in the head or neck area with your head and/or shoulder then its allready illegal now. The hit on Vick was legal because he was a runner at the time. Also the media has added the word "devastating hits" to this to make it sound better in their news story.

[aceinthehouse]

Oh...and in case any of you are curious...?

I just heard...Jeremy Jarmon would have been suspended for the hit on Aaron Rodgers.
Even though he was not flagged for it,he was fined for it and would face suspension..

Enjoy..
great...blah

[aceinthehouse]

Yea,this is going to be a witch hunt...

This is a quote by "Soup"

I was listening to Chicago radio, for obvious reasons, they had john clayton on and he talked about it. There will be a couple deciding factors that will make a ref or whomever makes the decision to eject or suspend a player. One is if the hit is an obvious helmet to helmet which causes a player to get injured like the Djax hit, the other is a hit on defenseless players.

He said the NFL will not start to really enforce the rules until next season after they talk about how to enforce it. During this season they will only suspend players if its an obvious hit like the Djax example. But he did say the NFL will make a list of head-Hunters and ask personnel to talk with these guys. I don't know if Landry would be on that list.

They brought up two Redskin hits, the one where Fletcher hit the colts running back, Clayton said that is legal because its unavoidable and the player didn't intentionally do it. The other was the hit to Aaron Rodgers hit by Jarmon. Clayton said only if its an obvious hit and the player is severely injured. He stressed the words "obvious" and "severely injured".

take it for what its worth....

[Sportsgod]

*Huge hits are all part of the game. Outlawing them would be eliminating hockey fights. Not going to happen.......

[SmootSmack]

Who's "Soup"?

And, in my opinion, we got lucky on that Jarmon hit. It looked clearly like hlelmet to helmet to me. I think so long as you don't lead with your helmet you should be ok. Wrapping up is the more fundamental way to do it, but really it's the knock out shots that cause the turnovers. I think more is being made of this right now than will actually come out of it.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who's "Soup"?

And, in my opinion, we got lucky on that Jarmon hit. It looked clearly like helmet to helmet to me. I think so long as you don't lead with your helmet you should be ok. Wrapping up is the more fundamental way to do it, but really it's the knock out shots that cause the turnovers. I think more is being made of this right now than will actually come out of it.

I hope you're right SS. I certainly understand why leading with your helmet is illegal and agree that it should be...but clean violent hits are a big part of why I love football so much. I've heard a lot players say this is the only place they can assault someone and not be arrested for it. It's part of the game and a big part of the attraction for me.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who's "Soup"?

And, in my opinion, we got lucky on that Jarmon hit. It looked clearly like hlelmet to helmet to me. I think so long as you don't lead with your helmet you should be ok. Wrapping up is the more fundamental way to do it, but really it's the knock out shots that cause the turnovers. I think more is being made of this right now than will actually come out of it.

Well on the Mike & Mike show this morning who ever they had from the NFL said any hit to the head and neck area of a defenseless player will get looked at. They are not just talking about WR's he also mentioned other hits to head of defenseless players. Like after a int. and a player jogging down the field and someone takes one of those cheap blocks to the head. The only thing i really heard that I did not know was hitting a defenseless player in the head with your shoulder and forearm is an illegal hit.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who's "Soup"?

And, in my opinion, we got lucky on that Jarmon hit. It looked clearly like hlelmet to helmet to me. I think so long as you don't lead with your helmet you should be ok. Wrapping up is the more fundamental way to do it, but really it's the knock out shots that cause the turnovers. I think more is being made of this right now than will actually come out of it.

1, 2, and 3 right there.

1. if players actually tackle and wrap up this becomes way less of an issue

2. they have to reinforce when to go for the hit and when to wrap up

3. i'll take you back to post 18 http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post749798 where i think you nailed it, i could see what happened in mlb with congress stepping in having an effect of the nfl's quick reaction to implement a rule

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who's "Soup"?

And, in my opinion, we got lucky on that Jarmon hit. It looked clearly like hlelmet to helmet to me. I think so long as you don't lead with your helmet you should be ok. Wrapping up is the more fundamental way to do it, but really it's the knock out shots that cause the turnovers. I think more is being made of this right now than will actually come out of it.

It's the knock-out shots that gets these guys on the jacked-up replays. Players love it as long as they're not the ones getting jacked.

[MTK]

Let's see how they enforce it before we get our panties in a wad.

[Alvin Walton]

Yea, now its my Aunt Martha's NFL.

[aceinthehouse]

BTW..The NFL is full of crap...

Saying there doing it for the Safety of the Players....
If this were true,then they would draw back their push for an 18 game schedule...

With all the injuries we are having,the last thing they need to be doing is adding 2 more games during the season.

Why don't they crack down on players wearing the required uniform?
You wouldn't believe how many players don't wear Knee pads like RB's and WR's because it slows them down?

I was taught and required as a young player to always wear those things,as much as I hated them...But they do protect the knees..

These players can marrch on to te field without them and nothing is said..
Why don't they crack down on that,instead of what color your socks are?
Or the players wearing diamond stud necklaces during games that don't belong?

The NFL doesn't care about anything, but there image..(see big ben and favre)
And money!

It's that simple..