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Old 12-11-2010, 07:52 PM   #1
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He makes good points but the BIG PROBLEM is lack of talent people.. It's not hard to figure this stuff out, talent wins games and the Redskins roster isn't a winning roster. Shanny has done a decent job but give him and BA time, I HATE losing every season but if we finish 7-9 that would be a good season for us, Baby steps folks.
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Old 12-11-2010, 09:14 PM   #2
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He makes good points but the BIG PROBLEM is lack of talent people.. It's not hard to figure this stuff out, talent wins games and the Redskins roster isn't a winning roster. Shanny has done a decent job but give him and BA time, I HATE losing every season but if we finish 7-9 that would be a good season for us, Baby steps folks.
On that note, I think it's fair to note that there are 19 players on the roster now with 1 year or less experience. And a lot of them are getting playing time. The one thing I wish that Allen and/or Shanny would have done this past off-season is tell the fans give us 2-3 years.
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:16 PM   #3
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On that note, I think it's fair to note that there are 19 players on the roster now with 1 year or less experience. And a lot of them are getting playing time. The one thing I wish that Allen and/or Shanny would have done this past off-season is tell the fans give us 2-3 years.
That may have been a hard sell when you consider all the damage that was done to the fan base last year. Ticket and merchandise sales took a tumble, in an effort to repair some of the damage, selling the team as a retool as opposed to a rebuild would serve better towards getting fans back in the stands.

The writer extracted the words of his article from my mouth. The truths he recite is/has been common knowledge to just about everyone who closely follows the Redskins. As a result, I'm not totally committed to blindly following the resume of Shanahan and Allen. They both have to prove their worth HERE, never-mind what they did someplace else. I am however, willing to give him time because that's what he's going to need.
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That may have been a hard sell when you consider all the damage that was done to the fan base last year. Ticket and merchandise sales took a tumble, in an effort to repair some of the damage, selling the team as a retool as opposed to a rebuild would serve better towards getting fans back in the stands.

The writer extracted the words of his article from my mouth. The truths he recite is/has been common knowledge to just about everyone who closely follows the Redskins. As a result, I'm not totally committed to blindly following the resume of Shanahan and Allen. They both have to prove their worth HERE, never-mind what they did someplace else. I am however, willing to give him time because that's what he's going to need.
Shanahan may manipulate the public opinion in a lot of ways, but he and Bruce believe in "the future is now" because their actions this offseason are totally consistent with it. Why bother with Ma'ake Kemo as the default starter unless Kemo already "won" the position battle on paper. Offensive line was addressed adequately...on paper...by Hicks, Mike Williams, and Rabach the Cap'n. RB was more than addressed..on paper... by having Willie and Larry be the expected backups to CP. Haynesworth was going to be a superstar NT next to Kemo...on paper. Kareem Moore was adequate to be a FS...on paper. This team did look pretty damn fine on paper this offseason.
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:01 PM   #5
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Shanahan may manipulate the public opinion in a lot of ways, but he and Bruce believe in "the future is now" because their actions this offseason are totally consistent with it. Why bother with Ma'ake Kemo as the default starter unless Kemo already "won" the position battle on paper. Offensive line was addressed adequately...on paper...by Hicks, Mike Williams, and Rabach the Cap'n. RB was more than addressed..on paper... by having Willie and Larry be the expected backups to CP. Haynesworth was going to be a superstar NT next to Kemo...on paper. Kareem Moore was adequate to be a FS...on paper. This team did look pretty damn fine on paper this offseason.
I feel ya!! CP....but there's just one little problem, paper can't play...... the future is always now when a coach is hired and feels pressure to win football games immediately.
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:40 PM   #6
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Shanny tried to shoot the moon w/ McNabb.
He failed.
Time to dust off and try again the right way.
But, i respect him for giving it a shot.
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Old 12-12-2010, 06:00 AM   #7
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I'm surprised I'm the only one who really thought that article was ridiculous. I think we all know that it takes more than one offseason to turn around a 4-12 team no matter who the new coach is. I don't think shanahan has really done anything wrong this season - I'm not buying the whole "his ego hurts the team" garbage. Mcnabb trade maybe... but campbell must not have shown a propensity to run his offense.

As far as the 3-4 situation, it's not like he came in here thinking a 3-4 defense would make us better, I think he did understand that the personnel didn't quite match. I think his decision to run the 3-4 was based on the league-wide shift to the 3-4; I bet in 10 years every team will run it because it does have advantages over the 4-3. Unfortunately we weren't able to draft/trade for all the pieces we needed last offseason, but it's a work in progress.

You just can't write an article like that without mentioning that it's only been ONE OFFSEASON since he inherited a god-awful team. Jesus...
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I'm surprised I'm the only one who really thought that article was ridiculous. I think we all know that it takes more than one offseason to turn around a 4-12 team no matter who the new coach is. I don't think shanahan has really done anything wrong this season - I'm not buying the whole "his ego hurts the team" garbage. Mcnabb trade maybe... but campbell must not have shown a propensity to run his offense.

As far as the 3-4 situation, it's not like he came in here thinking a 3-4 defense would make us better, I think he did understand that the personnel didn't quite match. I think his decision to run the 3-4 was based on the league-wide shift to the 3-4; I bet in 10 years every team will run it because it does have advantages over the 4-3. Unfortunately we weren't able to draft/trade for all the pieces we needed last offseason, but it's a work in progress.

You just can't write an article like that without mentioning that it's only been ONE OFFSEASON since he inherited a god-awful team. Jesus...
Yeah, if this was year 2 of Shanahan, this article would make a lot more sense. Right now it's premature.
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Old 12-12-2010, 06:01 AM   #9
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Did you read the comments at the end of the article? Its pretty bad when a cowboys fan is telling us to hang in there

"With all these (snicker!) "experts" posting their analysis of the Redskins' problems and advising of their miracle cures, I don't need to add my thoughts on who might be to blame. Instead, I'll just say that, as a Cowboys fan (and a football fan too), I would like to see all this ironed out in Washington and the 'Skins get back to being competitive, whatever it takes. This team has Super Bowl trophies they've earned, and it's sad to see a proud franchise fall on hard times like this. It happens to all teams from time to time, and I have no doubts that the 'Skins will eventually get it all together and start playing football. I remember times when Cowboys/Redskins games were the ones every fan waited eagerly to see, and that epic rivalry will return. Until then, I advise all the 'Skins fans to keep their chins up...your guys will once again give you something to be proud of. Keep the faith."
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:33 AM   #10
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Maybe i'm in the minority here, but these article seems to just be trash: lot of speculation, lot of hearsay, and a lot of talking about nothing.
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