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View Poll Results: 2011 Opening Day Starting QB | |||
John Beck |
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7 | 3.48% |
Rex Grossman |
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84 | 41.79% |
Donovan McNabb |
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18 | 8.96% |
Jake Locker |
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16 | 7.96% |
Andrew Luck |
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10 | 4.98% |
Ryan Mallett |
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12 | 5.97% |
Cam Newton |
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15 | 7.46% |
Some Other QB Out of College |
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9 | 4.48% |
Some Other QB in the NFL |
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30 | 14.93% |
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
My feeling's about McNabb really haven't changed since he was an Iggle. I'm not sure what everyone was expecting....
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
That goes in regards to MS as well. He obviously didn't perform a proper vetting process prior to giving up draft picks we need for a QB that didn't fit the system he was planning to implement.
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
Call me crazy but for some reason I am really confident in Rex with this offense. I'm actually looking forward to seeing him run it again Sunday.
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
There have been some REALLY great QB's in the draft the past recent years but we missed out.
The season isnt even over and Im haunted by a feeling that next year is already written off. I dont think any FA QBs want to deal with daddy/son egos and a pathetic OL/WR core. But if we get word Haslett is fired I think we have a shot to contend for the division like we ought to have won this year despite a team divided by coaches/players. If we were going to bench mcnabb/AH and openly sacrifice this season to gain control of the authorita- i wonder if we would have been better off keeping zorn not firing haslett and waiting for gruden or cowher for the 2011 season. I mean what good is a FEW more wins when we are even more terrible and reaching new lows of embarassment???? Its going to be a long offseason and maybe an added sentence under this regime. Hail Hit-no shanahans
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
The Shanny I trust stuff is utter nonsense. Remember in Gibbs II we trust, Spurrier, etc? The performances in terms of game planning, play calling, and handling personnel thus far for the Shanahans has been abysmal at best. Ditto for Allen. These guys should have already known that McNabb wasn't a good fit for the system. Isn't strange that the Eagles would give up their multiple Pro Bowl QB to an intradivisional rival, and nobody in Redskins Park gave it a second thought? A lot of us were excited about getting DM, but still the Eagles obviously knew he wasn't the QB to give them a title. If these guys bumble through draft 2011, game(franchise) over. These guys will be looking for new jobs come Jan 2013. He might be a good coach, but he hasn't won squat since 1998, even with a ton of post Elway talent in a crappy division. Too many of the kool aid drinkers in here are like love lorn college chicks without self esteem throwing themselves at any guy thinking he loves her, while in the end she is just used and disillusioned. Happens way too much!
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
And as for the Locker love, why? Kid has an arm, but he throws a lot of INTs and his deceision making sucks. I would go for him over Newton though.
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
We need to draft o linemen in this draft and it appears this is a good year to do it as the pool looks pretty deep. Luck is the only "franchise" qb in this draft, at least based on tape. Ideally we get a top shelf lineman, perhaps a 3-4 DE or offensive lineman and then see what's available in the second round. If someone like Mallett or Locker has fallen, which is quite possible, take one, otherwise, add more linemen.
As for Haslett, you can't expect to have an elite 3-4 defense the first year you implement it, especially when your lacking in the personnel department. We have some of the pieces for it to work but we need to add either a stout end or a big nose tackle, another rush linebacker and for god's sake, can we draft a fricken FS? Then again, I wonder if Kevin Barnes might be able to take that spot. Either way, I feel that given more than one year and a healthy Laron Landry, the defense could turn into a monster. While I understand we are all frustrated by two decades of continual sucking, the knee jerk reaction to fire Haslett is quite premature. Our defense gave up a lot of yards early and has to blitz constantly, but we forced a ton of turnovers and at least made up for the yardage by keeping the points allowed reasonable. The loss of Landry pretty much ruined the d not to mention the fact that our offense has been anemic at best for the majority of the season. With the additions of more 3-4 talent, we could turn into one of the leagues best. It just isn't going to happen over night. |
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
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Last year, at 4-12 our defense was still top 10-12, and one year later we are 28-31. There is definitely some to blame on the coordinator when we didnt lose a whole lot on defense. |
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
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And let's not make last year's D into the 2000 Ravens. Yes, they were good statistically, but not in terms of takeaways or stopping opponents when they absolutely had to. Some of the decline we've seen this year can be traced back to changes in scheme, and some mistakes with coaching, but by far I'd say it's performance related. The guys up front just aren't that good. |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
i wouldnt go 3-4 end in the first round. there arent any elite o-lineman in the first round either. we need offensive playmakers at wide receiver, a qb for the future, o-line, d-line, and another rush linebacker. i'd look at taking either blackmon at receiver in the first or a rush outside linebacker to compliment orakpo and take pressure off of him. if locker is there, i think shanahan would take him though.
i think grossman will be the opening day starting qb.
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I don't think it's Haslett's fault. You can't run a good scheme with out the right players. I blame Shanny because he's so married to the 3-4 in the first place. I've said a few times that it's much easier to build a good offense if you already have a good defense. It just seems like common sense to leave it the way it was, revamp the offensive side, then if you want, make the switch. Because it's also easier to rebuild a defense if your now working with a good offense. Doing them both at once seems like such an up hill battle that takes so long.
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I definitely wouldn't mind seeing that. Only if we picked up another pick and grabbed him up some protection. If he's not protected I've seen him fall apart and get rattled in a hurry. If he's feeling relaxed, he can beat you a lot of different ways.
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
Updated: December 26, 2010, 11:43 AM ET
Source: Donovan McNabb seeks release By Adam Schefter ESPN Archive Being that Donovan McNabb no longer is a part of the Washington Redskins' game plans, he has his own game plan in place for after this season, according to one person close to the quarterback. NFC East blog Mosley ESPN.com's Matt Mosley writes about all things NFC East in his division blog. • Blog network: NFL Nation After the season, McNabb is planning to meet with the Redskins and ask them for his release. McNabb wants to be in a position where he can pick the place to finish his career, not have it dictated to him as was the case last season when Philadelphia traded him to Washington. It's highly unlikely the Redskins initially would release McNabb, not when they believe he still has some trade value. Washington would want to recoup as much as possible for the player whom they surrendered second- and fourth-round picks. What will test McNabb's trade value is the $10 million option bonus in his contract that another team might have to pay. Yet there are any number of teams -- Minnesota, Seattle, San Francisco, Carolina, Tennessee and Miami -- with significant quarterback questions looming for 2011. McNabb was benched only once in 11 years with Philadelphia, and he's already doubled that total with the Redskins since being acquired by the team in April. Shanahan yanked McNabb for Rex Grossman in the final two minutes against Detroit in October with the game on the line, then offered several strange excuses for the decision. Earlier this season Mike Shanahan said he felt Grossman had a better grasp of the team's two-minute offense, then said McNabb lacked the "cardiovascular endurance" to run a fast-paced drill because of nagging hamstring injuries. Offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said McNabb had been tipped off in advance that the team might go with Grossman; McNabb said he hadn't. Then the Redskins gave McNabb a five-year contract extension worth up to $78 million -- though the quarterback is guaranteed to receive only an extra $3.5 million this season. The deal contains a clause that allows the Redskins to cut McNabb before next season with no further financial obligation. But with McNabb intending to ask the Redskins for his release, and with Washington in the market to trade him, one result seems unavoidable. McNabb will not be a Redskin in 2011.
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?
Screw mcnabb he will be let go b/c Coach wants him gone or if the money is too much on another aging cap heavy veteran (Wash. always finds ways to resign unwanted or over pay these aging vets). I wish his salary was low enough where we could keep him and stash him down the depth charts- he doesnt get to dictate his career simply by where he wants to finish.
Why did he reisgn if he isnt using the haynesworth take the money upfront then pee his pants and act a childish fool.
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