McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by juskins

We are talking about philosophy of the motivational make up of a NFL team. You are purposely getting off track here.

That's a mighty big phrase, but "team identity" should suffice.
The only statement that concerns the "motivational make up" of the team is that the qb gives identity to the team. There are a couple of statements about Campbell that needs to be verfied and then the rest is about the flawed methodology of team building. I just pointed out examples in which they are still making transactions that mortgage away the future and how Snyder has been giving time to coaches ever since Spurrier. Marty was the only one who definitely did not get a fair shot.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

That's a mighty big phrase, but "team identity" should suffice.
The only statement that concerns the "motivational make up" of the team is that the qb gives identity to the team. There are a couple of statements about Campbell that needs to be verfied and then the rest is about the flawed methodology of team building. I just pointed out examples in which they are still making transactions that mortgage away the future and how Snyder has been giving time to coaches ever since Spurrier. Marty was the only one who definitely did not get a fair shot.

I believe your concerns are part of this regimes finding the weaknesses at key positions. The way they handle it comes in the form of confrontation of the issues that they see as "disrespectful" to the organization. It may not be tactful but it lets a player know that they will not lie down and be taken advantage of.

First Haynesworth and now McNabb, in the latter case, Donovan cannot get away with his previous habits here in DC. I accept this punishment with a resounding "YEAH!" and hope that they take it to the limit in order to get the best team assembled as possible.

[Longtimefan]

Redskins' Kyle Shanahan refutes statement by Donovan McNabb's agent, Fletcher Smith III

[SBXVII]

I said it once and will say it again......

McNabb is a good QB, but he's older now, injury prone, can't scramble to save his life anymore, and throws dirt balls. All this I complained about last Easter Sunday when it was announced the Skins picked him up. He's a HOF no doubt, but that doesn't mean he'll solve our problems. But.... now we have him. We either coach him up on this style/scheme or trade him away.

I'd keep him if he doesn't mind being second fiddle to Grossman until he learns the scheme better but there are major issues then perhaps trading him for whatever we can get is best.

Thebigger key to McNabbs mess would be for him to address the media about what he did say and what his manager has stated. Funny how he avoids the media questions, but supposedly is on the Shanahans side. WTF?
Either admit what was said or put your manager in his place and have "him" address the media about his statements..... and apologize.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I said it once and will say it again......

McNabb is a good QB, but he's older now, injury prone, can't scramble to save his life anymore, and throws dirt balls. All this I complained about last Easter Sunday when it was announced the Skins picked him up. He's a HOF no doubt, but that doesn't mean he'll solve our problems. But.... now we have him. We either coach him up on this style/scheme or trade him away.

I'd keep him if he doesn't mind being second fiddle to Grossman until he learns the scheme better but there are major issues then perhaps trading him for whatever we can get is best.

Thebigger key to McNabbs mess would be for him to address the media about what he did say and what his manager has stated. Funny how he avoids the media questions, but supposedly is on the Shanahans side. WTF?
Either admit what was said or put your manager in his place and have "him" address the media about his statements..... and apologize.

I read today that McNabb's agent is saying that he and Donovan are on the same page. Go figure.

[Nomad]

Chad Dukes Rant On the Redskins 59-28 Loss « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio

Who heard this rant, yet. Classic!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Chad Dukes Rant On the Redskins 59-28 Loss « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio

Who heard this rant, yet. Classic!

Dukes needs to put it down. I happened to be listening to 106 when he delivered his infamous rant. He says he's been a Redskin fan for thirty one years and feel the team owes him something. Well, I've been a Redskin fan for almost twice that long, and have dumped thousand's into the organization. I saw a lot of bad long before he became a fan, back to the time when bad was worse than that. They don't owe me anything, even if they did I could never be repaid.

[Beemnseven]

It was a bad trade, no doubt -- impossible to defend at this point. But unlike some others, I'm not a "one strike and you're out!" type person. I'm willing to allow for a mistake here and there. Losing on those draft picks was big without question, but I'll still take a mistake by Mike Shanahan in year one versus continuing the pattern with the umpteenth mistake by Vinny in year 12.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

It was a bad trade, no doubt -- impossible to defend at this point. But unlike some others, I'm not a "one strike and you're out!" type person. I'm willing to allow for a mistake here and there. Losing on those draft picks was big without question, but I'll still take a mistake by Mike Shanahan in year one versus continuing the pattern with the umpteenth mistake by Vinny in year 12.

If the mistake is caused by the same flawed thought process, why do him the benefit of resetting the counter? Just keep adding on until things actually change.

[Beemnseven]

If Mike Shanahan is still making those types of trades in year three, and the team still hasn't progressed, then it'll be time to move on. Like I said though, until he demonstrates a pattern of those mistakes, I'm willing to let this one go. I don't like it, but I'll let it go.

With Vinny it was outright insanity -- he would make a mistake like this, and keep trying it over and over. But unlike some others, I'm not going to call for Shanahan's head for one f*ck up.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

If Mike Shanahan is still making those types of trades in year three, and the team still hasn't progressed, then it'll be time to move on. Like I said though, until he demonstrates a pattern of those mistakes, I'm willing to let this one go. I don't like it, but I'll let it go.

With Vinny it was outright insanity -- he would make a mistake like this, and keep trying it over and over. But unlike some others, I'm not going to call for Shanahan's head for one f*ck up.

Agreed. Some patience is required as a fan. I know none of us want to hear this since we have been going through it for years, but that's how I see it.

[Longtimefan]

The sooner this partnership is resolved, the better prepared the team will be in it's efforts to move forward on personnel and matters aimed at improving the team. This season has been sabotaged by one distraction after another.

As Redskins' Donovan McNabb plays both sides of the fence, it's clear both sides need a quick end to the relationship

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

The sooner this partnership is resolved, the better prepared the team will be in it's efforts to move forward on personnel and matters aimed at improving the team. This season has been sabotaged by one distraction after another.

As Redskins' Donovan McNabb plays both sides of the fence, it's clear both sides need a quick end to the relationship

Much like the AH situation, I think it's reached the point of no going back and it's best to just cut ties as soon as possible.

[newticketholder]

McNabb is a proBowl QB. I know he didn't have the best year of his career. But how can you bring in this QB and completely change his style of play going from a passing QB to a running game. It wasn't a good fit to start but I don't think they gave him the time needed for adjustments. Once it became a losing season, They could of left McNabb in there to get more work and better prepared for next year