T.O. and Westbrook to sit out??

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 03:17 PM

The player can also exercise his right to say: "This is what YOU signed up for, so tough shit."

I guess in the end, it seems right for a team to ask a player to take less since they are getting paid millions anyway and those spare couple million could be used to make a winning team rather than buying a particular player an extra Bently.

It just seems greedy to me when players ask for lots more because they feel they are getting shafted with their already ludacrous contracts.

Daseal · 04-07-2005, 03:20 PM

Well Malcolm - the team can also ditch them and only pay them SB.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 03:24 PM

I'm not sure how to respond to that since I really don't know what goes into the contracts. I'm sure some contracts have it where a person can be cut no questions asked.

MTK · 04-07-2005, 03:44 PM

Wow, another team with contract troubles?

Who woulda thunk it!

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 03:48 PM

Rosenhaus might be fair in his negotiating tactics, but I'm sure it's not just Taylor or Moss's idea to sit out in anticipation of a new contract. I would say that Drew has been behind more than a few of these "sit outs" to benefit his clients and his own pockets.

HermosaBeach Skin Fan · 04-07-2005, 04:22 PM

The league has become out of control with this stuff. Somewhere it should state that they have to play by term of the contract and it CANNOT be renegotiated until the contract is up. The league should really go to a totally performance based pay system.

Thoughts?

MTK · 04-07-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HermosaBeach Skin Fan

The league has become out of control with this stuff. Somewhere it should state that they have to play by term of the contract and it CANNOT be renegotiated until the contract is up. The league should really go to a totally performance based pay system.

Thoughts?

Nice thought, but as long as there's a player's union, ain't gonna happen.

mooby · 04-07-2005, 04:33 PM

yeah matt's right. player's union = more money for player and the right to renegotiate.

jdlea · 04-07-2005, 04:40 PM

I just wanna go on record as saying that I don't agree with T.O. or many other players demanding that their contract be restructured. However, I do think it's funny. I think that's what organizations get for pressuring players into restructuring all the time. If they fall off they have to take less. T.O. stepped up, why shouldn't he get more? I can see where they're coming from. I don't agree, but I think it should make things interesting.

Now I wanna see what happens to Philly now that the real Terrell Owens has resurfaced.

SmootSmack · 04-07-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I just wanna go on record as saying that I don't agree with T.O. or many other players demanding that their contract be restructured. However, I do think it's funny. I think that's what organizations get for pressuring players into restructuring all the time. If they fall off they have to take less. T.O. stepped up, why shouldn't he get more? I can see where they're coming from. I don't agree, but I think it should make things interesting.

Now I wanna see what happens to Philly now that the real Terrell Owens has resurfaced.

I think you're pretty on point with this. And if Portis hadn't been demandnig a restructured contract in Denver would we even see him in burgundy and gold?

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 05:58 PM

This is what I was saying in another thread...

When teams ask a player to restructure, it normally isn't to line their own pockets (not directly anyway). They ask a player to restructure to make room to bring in even more talent.

I think when a player asks for a restructure for more money, it is strictly for personal gain.

In the end, I would say the lesser of two evils is asking a player to take a cut of his millions to help the team out in the end.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-07-2005, 07:00 PM

I love hearing this. I mean really, what did the Eagles expect when they went after this guy? Everything about this is consistent with TO's past. I've had more arguments than I can even count with Eagles fans over this guy and how he'll be a locker room cancer within a few short years. My prediction: this is just the beginning of the slap in the face that is Terell Owens.

Seriously, this news should not be underestimated in terms of its importance. Joe Banner is about the most stubborn SOB in the NFL when it comes to renegotiating contracts or paying big bucks to his stars. Remember, this is the guy that let three guys go who were voted Defensive MVP of the team by their fellow players (see Trotter, Douglas, and Emmons), and stared down Duce when he held out when he was their only legit RB. This guy doesn't back down. Hasn't let a single player beat him yet. It could get very ugly with TO and Westbrook and Simon etc.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 07:26 PM

I would LOVE to have another team in the NFC East have the off-the-field controversy this year (not like we haven't had our share so far).

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-07-2005, 08:25 PM

It's interesting to think. I know we would have been after a runningback. I wonder who Gibbs would have wanted if not for Portis.

That Guy · 04-07-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

It's interesting to think. I know we would have been after a runningback. I wonder who Gibbs would have wanted if not for Portis.

dillon maybe? to be fair, portis was running for 1500+ yards and making 500k... that contract was a bit lopsided...

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TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? The player can also exercise his right to say: "This is what YOU signed up for, so tough shit." I guess in the end, it seems right for a team to ask a player to take less since they are getting paid millions anyway and those spare couple million could be used to make a winning team rather than buying a particular player an extra Bently. It just seems greedy to me when players ask for lots more because they feel they are getting shafted with their already ludacrous contracts. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? I'm not sure how to respond to that since I really don't know what goes into the contracts. I'm sure some contracts have it where a person can be cut no questions asked. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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04-07-2005, 03:48 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? Rosenhaus might be fair in his negotiating tactics, but I'm sure it's not just Taylor or Moss's idea to sit out in anticipation of a new contract. I would say that Drew has been behind more than a few of these "sit outs" to benefit his clients and his own pockets. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 04:22 PM	#6
HermosaBeach Skin Fan Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Age: 46 Posts: 44	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? The league has become out of control with this stuff. Somewhere it should state that they have to play by term of the contract and it CANNOT be renegotiated until the contract is up. The league should really go to a totally performance based pay system. Thoughts?

04-07-2005, 04:33 PM	#8
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? yeah matt's right. player's union = more money for player and the right to renegotiate. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

04-07-2005, 04:40 PM	#9
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? I just wanna go on record as saying that I don't agree with T.O. or many other players demanding that their contract be restructured. However, I do think it's funny. I think that's what organizations get for pressuring players into restructuring all the time. If they fall off they have to take less. T.O. stepped up, why shouldn't he get more? I can see where they're coming from. I don't agree, but I think it should make things interesting. Now I wanna see what happens to Philly now that the real Terrell Owens has resurfaced.

04-07-2005, 05:58 PM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? This is what I was saying in another thread... When teams ask a player to restructure, it normally isn't to line their own pockets (not directly anyway). They ask a player to restructure to make room to bring in even more talent. I think when a player asks for a restructure for more money, it is strictly for personal gain. In the end, I would say the lesser of two evils is asking a player to take a cut of his millions to help the team out in the end. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 07:00 PM	#12
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 48 Posts: 1,340	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? I love hearing this. I mean really, what did the Eagles expect when they went after this guy? Everything about this is consistent with TO's past. I've had more arguments than I can even count with Eagles fans over this guy and how he'll be a locker room cancer within a few short years. My prediction: this is just the beginning of the slap in the face that is Terell Owens. Seriously, this news should not be underestimated in terms of its importance. Joe Banner is about the most stubborn SOB in the NFL when it comes to renegotiating contracts or paying big bucks to his stars. Remember, this is the guy that let three guys go who were voted Defensive MVP of the team by their fellow players (see Trotter, Douglas, and Emmons), and stared down Duce when he held out when he was their only legit RB. This guy doesn't back down. Hasn't let a single player beat him yet. It could get very ugly with TO and Westbrook and Simon etc. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

04-07-2005, 07:26 PM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? I would LOVE to have another team in the NFC East have the off-the-field controversy this year (not like we haven't had our share so far). __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-07-2005, 08:25 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: T.O. and Westbrook to sit out?? It's interesting to think. I know we would have been after a runningback. I wonder who Gibbs would have wanted if not for Portis. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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