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Old 12-29-2010, 11:55 AM   #1
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Re: Currently Rostered Players Who Should be on the Redskins in 2011

This guys should be on the roster for 2011:

Offense

QB-Grossman, Beck (trade McNabb)
RB-Williams, Torain, Davis, Portis (as a 3rd down back and reduced contract)
FB-Young
WR-Moss, Banks, Austin, Armstrong, Kelly
TE-Cooley, Paulsen (Trade Davis if possible)
OL-TWilliams, Lichtensteiger, Montgomery, Heyer, Cook, MWilliams (if he can come back) Brown (if he can sign a reasonable contract) Capers.
LS-Sundberg or upgrade

Defense

DL-Bryant, Carriker, Golston, Rob Jackson, Jarmon Trade Haynesworth
LB- Orakpo, Alexander, Wilson, Riley, Fletcher, McIntosh, Helton, (trade Blades if possible)
S-Landry, Moore, Russell, Doughty, Horton
CB-Rogers, Barnes, Westbrook, (trade Hall while he has value being voted to pro-bowl and his big contract) Sign CBailey if possible.
K-Gano
P-find one
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Old 12-28-2010, 08:31 AM   #2
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Re: Currently Rostered Players Who Should be on the Redskins in 2011

^I can't either. If he wasn't on the team next year I wouldn't even notice.
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Old 12-28-2010, 08:45 AM   #3
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I would have liked to see him finish as the Redskins all time leading rusher, and if he was willing to take a serious pay cut I would want him back as a third down back. I know you say you cant have two RB who dont play teams but it can be done, Westbrook doesn't play team, Forsett doesn't, Ricky Williams doesnt...I am sure there are more examples. Looking at that list though not sure they are good examples as all those teams stink.
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Re: Currently Rostered Players Who Should be on the Redskins in 2011

In greatly reduced role and salary, I would welcome CP back. But if we can find a quality back to add to the Williams/Torain mix and CP is the odd man out, so be it.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:11 AM   #5
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In greatly reduced role and salary, I would welcome CP back. But if we can find a quality back to add to the Williams/Torain mix and CP is the odd man out, so be it.
In today's NFL there just isnt room on the roster for guys playing a greatly diminished role. This team has enough problems with depth without using a roster spot on an old injury prone RB that only comes in to block on passes. In addition to CP I'd like to see Sellers gone. Much like CP's reduced role Sellers just doesnt do enough to justify his spot on the roster. Except for Torrain I really think the Skins need to clean house at RB.
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Old 12-28-2010, 09:57 PM   #6
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In today's NFL there just isnt room on the roster for guys playing a greatly diminished role. This team has enough problems with depth without using a roster spot on an old injury prone RB that only comes in to block on passes. In addition to CP I'd like to see Sellers gone. Much like CP's reduced role Sellers just doesnt do enough to justify his spot on the roster. Except for Torrain I really think the Skins need to clean house at RB.
Can't call Portis injury prone and then defend Torain. Portis doesn't get hurt in warm-ups.

Portis can still run the ball. He can't break it and beat the safeties anymore (and really hasn't been able to for about four years). Neither can Torain. Portis is still a much better, more natural runner than Torain. And a better blocker. And pass receiver. Probably no more injury prone either.

Is he $8 million better? Probably not. But if you don't feel that Portis is worth even half his salary, you can release him and Torain and start over at the position. I think Portis is worth close to his salary. Not in excess of it, but close to it.
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Can't call Portis injury prone and then defend Torain. Portis doesn't get hurt in warm-ups.

Portis can still run the ball. He can't break it and beat the safeties anymore (and really hasn't been able to for about four years). Neither can Torain. Portis is still a much better, more natural runner than Torain. And a better blocker. And pass receiver. Probably no more injury prone either.

Is he $8 million better? Probably not. But if you don't feel that Portis is worth even half his salary, you can release him and Torain and start over at the position. I think Portis is worth close to his salary. Not in excess of it, but close to it.
We're looking at opposite ends of the career spectrum.. Torain's is starting.. he doesn't have a lot of wear and tear.. but his career could end before it starts.. either way he's been able to play after his injuries

Portis' career has not been delayed but is likely to be shortened due to it

Portis will go the way of LJ and WP more so than anything else.. better blocker sure.. but Torain had more catches this year than Portis in his last two

natural or not, if you can't break it.. what's the big diff? Portis dives and lacks the burst that he once had

Portis hasn't avg'd above 4.3 since being here, Torain hit 4.7 this year.. so if neither can go next level take what you can get in avg.. I can see not saying Torain is the truth, but other than pass pro I don't see a reason to give Portis any sort of nod other than towards the unemployment line
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At 29 Bryant could be a good player for the next 2-3 seasons, I'll take that. It's not like he has a lot of wear and tear on him.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:13 AM   #9
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You don't like Keiland either? I think he's pretty solid.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:16 PM   #10
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Re: Currently Rostered Players Who Should be on the Redskins in 2011

I don't think Williams has any appreciable offensive value.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:32 PM   #11
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Re: Currently Rostered Players Who Should be on the Redskins in 2011

The need for talent is almost at every postilion, starters and back ups.
But there are several leftover players that that serve as ok back ups. but if they have to start for a long stretch they become a negative. It is time to replace that type of player.
It easier to identify them, then to identify who we keep of the young players.
Until we get talented quality replacements that is an improvement over our current player, we can not cut them just yet.

The most obvious players that start or play a significant amount that we most need to upgrade:

1) Philip Daniels (ancient)
2) Casey Rabach (no longer a mauler)
3) Phillip Buchanan (play is ok but getting old)
4) Vonnie Holiday (old, play is ok but need to get younger)
5) Kedrick Golsten (he will never be more than a good back up)
6) Derek Dockery (too slow for system and makes too many mental mistakes)
7) NT Kemo (plays ok at times, but need upgrade)
8) A Hicks (did not pan out)
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Old 12-28-2010, 03:33 PM   #12
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Re: Currently Rostered Players Who Should be on the Redskins in 2011

need more RBs and WRs.Portis is worn out.should not trade Cooley.what happened to Marco Mitchell?he was the biggest of the WRs.
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Old 12-28-2010, 03:51 PM   #13
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need more RBs and WRs.Portis is worn out.should not trade Cooley.what happened to Marco Mitchell?he was the biggest of the WRs.
He got cut and bounced around to Detroit and a couple of other teams. I don't think he had the physical tools to cut it or so many teams wouldn't have cut him after giving him a look.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:03 PM   #14
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need more RBs and WRs.Portis is worn out.should not trade Cooley.what happened to Marco Mitchell?he was the biggest of the WRs.
He will be resigned to the Redskins and split Super Bowl MVP honors next year with Marcus Mason.
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He will be resigned to the Redskins and split Super Bowl MVP honors next year with Marcus Mason.
Yeah and you forgot to mention how we all shit rainbow skittles after a Redskins win. That's in the same realm of likelihood.
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