IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?

Slingin Sammy 33 · 01-14-2011, 01:56 PM

Great point by Angry on the Wonderlic scores. Right now, I'll take Mallett. Played in a tougher conference, improved completion % each year, big arm, played solid in big games, carried his team offensively.

Locker had some horrible games, his comp % declined in 2010 with less attempts than 2009, his straight-line speed in the NFL will not be the factor it is in college.

All that being said, we need to move away from the mid-90's Shanny offense and move towards the 2009 Texans passing offense with more run emphasis. Mallett is a better fit for that type of system, than PA and rollouts.

As others have said, at 10 I'm exploring trade-down scenarios or taking best DL or OLB available.

mitch e · 01-23-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Great point by Angry on the Wonderlic scores. Right now, I'll take Mallett. Played in a tougher conference, improved completion % each year, big arm, played solid in big games, carried his team offensively.

Locker had some horrible games, his comp % declined in 2010 with less attempts than 2009, his straight-line speed in the NFL will not be the factor it is in college.

All that being said, we need to move away from the mid-90's Shanny offense and move towards the 2009 Texans passing offense with more run emphasis. Mallett is a better fit for that type of system, than PA and rollouts.

As others have said, at 10 I'm exploring trade-down scenarios or taking best DL or OLB available.

Mallett lost his best WR to injury and still had great numbers.

mooby · 01-14-2011, 02:04 PM

I don't think I want any of these guys.

Locker - Questionable decision making, and accuracy/field vision problems. Feels like he could be either a boom or bust in the NFL. Yeahno.

Mallett - In Shanny's system? Yeahno.

Newton - Don't like that he has only one season of CF experience, and I have plenty of off the field personality questions about him. The talent is there, I'm just not sure he has what it takes mentally. If he comes in the NFL thinking he's hot shit and he won't have to work hard to succeed I don't ever see him succeeding in the NFL. That and I still think he was in on his dad's pay for play scheme. There's probably a 50/50 chance I'm wrong on Newton, but I just don't like what I've heard about him so far.

Gabbert? Don't like that he is coming out of a spread system, or the fact that his numbers weren't even that eye popping for being in a spread system. I also think he's not that mobile, at least not to the level Shanny would like. In short, yeahno.

I probably shouldn't have even come into this thread lol. Idw any of them as of this point, to be honest. But since a qb has to be picked for the purposes of this thread, I'll say Newton.

Dirtbag59 · 01-14-2011, 02:06 PM

I'm drinking the Kool Aid early and saying that Cam has more Big Ben in him then Vince Young. Maybe being a winner is overated and the BCS is corrupt but Newton has won championships on every level since high school (GA State title, JUCO National Championship, SEC Championship, BCS National Championship). I refuse to be miserable through the next few months worrying about Cam Newton, rather I will now choose to embrace him and his God given gifts.

After that my choice would be Locker then Mallet. Maybe Ponder or Delvin in the 4th round but at that point I would rather draft an O-Lineman. Our chances of developing a pro bowl QB after round one obviously drop off substantially.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-14-2011, 02:18 PM

This is a forced choice since I do not want a QB at #10 but if I have to...

Ryan Mallett

44ever · 01-14-2011, 02:15 PM

No question, Lock!

IRISHSKIN24 · 01-14-2011, 07:42 PM

Locker...if the Skins took Newton i think I'd kill myself, might as well trade for Romo!...that's how much i dislike Newton...lol

besides just the arrogant way he carries himself, I think he's entirely overrated and in no way ready to play QB in the NFL. Newton would need at least 2 years to learn.Skin's wouldn't wait that long, neither would we

diehardskin2982 · 01-14-2011, 02:23 PM

I would like for us to draft Locker, although he regressed last year I think he has the intangibles to improve with the right coaching.

I would only be okay if we drafted Cam Newton and kept McNabb. I think he would have a positive influence on the kid, and give Cam the opportunity to develop some fundamentals on the bench.

skinsfan69 · 01-14-2011, 02:48 PM

I don't want any of these guys.

DCtoAZ · 01-14-2011, 03:03 PM

#10 Washington Redskins: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
As mentioned earlier, Blaine Gabbert supposedly is the best quarterback available. He seems like he could fit into Mike Shanahan's offense, so he'll probably be the pick if he's on the board. I don't need to tell you how much the Redskins need a quarterback.

For more on this quarterback, we have an interesting thread going about Blaine Gabbert on the forum.

Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities:

1. Ryan Kerrigan or Von Miller, DE/OLB - If the Redskins don't like any of the quarterbacks, they'll take the best defensive player available. That could be Ryan Kerrigan or Von Miller, both of whom would upgrade a poor pass rush.

2. J.J. Watt, DE/DT - Albert Haynesworth probably won't be back, so the Redskins will need an upgrade on their defensive front.

Pick change; previously Cam Newton, QB

***this is from Walterfootball.com**

Schneed10 · 01-14-2011, 03:11 PM

Gabbert, he's a fit for the Shanahan scheme. His strength is deep ball accuracy (big arm, nice accuracy, good touch), and Shanahan's offense asks the QB to read deep first, then to the intermediate, then to short.

Gabbert is coming from a system where he didn't have to make a lot of reads, if the deep ball was there he'd throw it. So he'll come in ready to hit on the deep stuff, and he seems bright enough to me to learn the rest of the progressions and reads.

KLHJ2 · 01-14-2011, 03:23 PM

Other Tyrod Taylor but not at 10. If I have to take a QB at 10 I do not wish to participate in this poll. There is no QB in the draft worthy of the number 10 spot.

DCtoAZ · 01-14-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry

Other Tyrod Taylor but not at 10. If I have to take a QB at 10 I do not wish to participate in this poll. There is no QB in the draft worthy of the number 10 spot.

look i like Tyrod Taylor as much as any VT fan .. but as an NFL QB he is NOWHERE near ready .. project at best .. i predict 6-7th rd pick

juskins · 01-14-2011, 03:46 PM

The most ready NFL QB coming out this year is Ryan Mallet. He is very accurate, strong armed and mobile enough to escape the rush.

But can he read NFL defenses? No, but what QB can coming out of college? And don't say Luck or whomever, they can't because they have not seen the stuff DC throw at rookies.

Newton probably is a better athlete than most coming out. But that does not equate to being the most NFL ready.

KLHJ2 · 01-14-2011, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

look i like Tyrod Taylor as much as any VT fan .. but as an NFL QB he is NOWHERE near ready .. project at best .. i predict 6-7th rd pick

I agree, but he is also the best QB in this draft.

View Poll Results: What QB Do You Want at #10?
Jake Locker	44	34.38%
Ryan Mallett	18	14.06%
Cam Newton	23	17.97%
Other (who?)	19	14.84%
Blaine Gabbert	24	18.75%
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01-14-2011, 02:04 PM	#3
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? I don't think I want any of these guys. Locker - Questionable decision making, and accuracy/field vision problems. Feels like he could be either a boom or bust in the NFL. Yeahno. Mallett - In Shanny's system? Yeahno. Newton - Don't like that he has only one season of CF experience, and I have plenty of off the field personality questions about him. The talent is there, I'm just not sure he has what it takes mentally. If he comes in the NFL thinking he's hot shit and he won't have to work hard to succeed I don't ever see him succeeding in the NFL. That and I still think he was in on his dad's pay for play scheme. There's probably a 50/50 chance I'm wrong on Newton, but I just don't like what I've heard about him so far. Gabbert? Don't like that he is coming out of a spread system, or the fact that his numbers weren't even that eye popping for being in a spread system. I also think he's not that mobile, at least not to the level Shanny would like. In short, yeahno. I probably shouldn't have even come into this thread lol. Idw any of them as of this point, to be honest. But since a qb has to be picked for the purposes of this thread, I'll say Newton. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

01-14-2011, 02:06 PM	#4
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? I'm drinking the Kool Aid early and saying that Cam has more Big Ben in him then Vince Young. Maybe being a winner is overated and the BCS is corrupt but Newton has won championships on every level since high school (GA State title, JUCO National Championship, SEC Championship, BCS National Championship). I refuse to be miserable through the next few months worrying about Cam Newton, rather I will now choose to embrace him and his God given gifts. After that my choice would be Locker then Mallet. Maybe Ponder or Delvin in the 4th round but at that point I would rather draft an O-Lineman. Our chances of developing a pro bowl QB after round one obviously drop off substantially. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

01-14-2011, 02:18 PM	#5
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? This is a forced choice since I do not want a QB at #10 but if I have to... Ryan Mallett __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-14-2011, 02:15 PM	#6
44ever Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Fortune Teller Posts: 2,512	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? No question, Lock!

01-14-2011, 01:56 PM	#1
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? Great point by Angry on the Wonderlic scores. Right now, I'll take Mallett. Played in a tougher conference, improved completion % each year, big arm, played solid in big games, carried his team offensively. Locker had some horrible games, his comp % declined in 2010 with less attempts than 2009, his straight-line speed in the NFL will not be the factor it is in college. All that being said, we need to move away from the mid-90's Shanny offense and move towards the 2009 Texans passing offense with more run emphasis. Mallett is a better fit for that type of system, than PA and rollouts. As others have said, at 10 I'm exploring trade-down scenarios or taking best DL or OLB available. __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

01-14-2011, 07:42 PM	#7
IRISHSKIN24 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 131	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? Locker...if the Skins took Newton i think I'd kill myself, might as well trade for Romo!...that's how much i dislike Newton...lol besides just the arrogant way he carries himself, I think he's entirely overrated and in no way ready to play QB in the NFL. Newton would need at least 2 years to learn.Skin's wouldn't wait that long, neither would we

01-14-2011, 02:23 PM	#8
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? I would like for us to draft Locker, although he regressed last year I think he has the intangibles to improve with the right coaching. I would only be okay if we drafted Cam Newton and kept McNabb. I think he would have a positive influence on the kid, and give Cam the opportunity to develop some fundamentals on the bench. __________________ That got ugly fast

01-14-2011, 02:48 PM	#9
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? I don't want any of these guys.

01-14-2011, 03:03 PM	#10
DCtoAZ Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 44 Posts: 623	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? #10 Washington Redskins: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri As mentioned earlier, Blaine Gabbert supposedly is the best quarterback available. He seems like he could fit into Mike Shanahan's offense, so he'll probably be the pick if he's on the board. I don't need to tell you how much the Redskins need a quarterback. For more on this quarterback, we have an interesting thread going about Blaine Gabbert on the forum. Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities: 1. Ryan Kerrigan or Von Miller, DE/OLB - If the Redskins don't like any of the quarterbacks, they'll take the best defensive player available. That could be Ryan Kerrigan or Von Miller, both of whom would upgrade a poor pass rush. 2. J.J. Watt, DE/DT - Albert Haynesworth probably won't be back, so the Redskins will need an upgrade on their defensive front. Pick change; previously Cam Newton, QB *this is from Walterfootball.com __________________ "F*CK THE DALLAS JUMBOTRON" NFC EAST CHAMPS RG3 will be back & #12 can run the show until hes ready.We are young w depth. 23,59,89 will all be back.Alfred Morris aka Diesel Hybrid ! @DCtoAZ81 ...2013 NFC CHAMPS

01-14-2011, 03:11 PM	#11
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? Gabbert, he's a fit for the Shanahan scheme. His strength is deep ball accuracy (big arm, nice accuracy, good touch), and Shanahan's offense asks the QB to read deep first, then to the intermediate, then to short. Gabbert is coming from a system where he didn't have to make a lot of reads, if the deep ball was there he'd throw it. So he'll come in ready to hit on the deep stuff, and he seems bright enough to me to learn the rest of the progressions and reads. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

01-14-2011, 03:23 PM	#12
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 47 Posts: 5,829	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? Other Tyrod Taylor but not at 10. If I have to take a QB at 10 I do not wish to participate in this poll. There is no QB in the draft worthy of the number 10 spot.

01-14-2011, 03:46 PM	#14
juskins Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 185	Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want? The most ready NFL QB coming out this year is Ryan Mallet. He is very accurate, strong armed and mobile enough to escape the rush. But can he read NFL defenses? No, but what QB can coming out of college? And don't say Luck or whomever, they can't because they have not seen the stuff DC throw at rookies. Newton probably is a better athlete than most coming out. But that does not equate to being the most NFL ready.

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