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Old 03-04-2011, 11:43 AM   #1
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Once the 2nd extension is up, I think there's a deal or there's a lockout. I'm betting on deal.
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Once the 2nd extension is up, I think there's a deal or there's a lockout. I'm betting on deal.
Yea, no need for extension if they are not close.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:49 AM   #3
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Definitely leaning towards a deal. If they were too far apart, the union would have de-certified and taken it to court and we'd already be in the lockout.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:51 AM   #4
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Definitely leaning towards a deal. If they were too far apart, the union would have de-certified and taken it to court and we'd already be in the lockout.
Agreed. Just the fact that they've agreed to continue talking indicates progress. I think both sides realize that a lockout would be a huge mess.
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Re: Ongoing CBA discussions

From what I heard and understand, the extension allows both parties more time to come to an agreement, once the CBA is expired the players can decertify and take it to fed. court in Minn where a judge whom has ruled in the players favor the last 15 years or so will again get to be the judge. Once in the courts, an expert figured it would take approx 6 months for a ruling. So the players time to decertify and file in court without it resulting in those 6 mos cutting into the reg season is rapidly approaching.

I dont undertand how a judge can be specially set to a matter for over 15 years thoo. I know in Mont Co Cir Co there is one judge who handles the complex contract/business matters b/c those types of cases req a greater understanding of the principles, law in that particular specialized area vs your avg bench judge.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:13 PM   #6
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From what I heard and understand, the extension allows both parties more time to come to an agreement, once the CBA is expired the players can decertify and take it to fed. court in Minn where a judge whom has ruled in the players favor the last 15 years or so will again get to be the judge. Once in the courts, an expert figured it would take approx 6 months for a ruling. So the players time to decertify and file in court without it resulting in those 6 mos cutting into the reg season is rapidly approaching.

I dont undertand how a judge can be specially set to a matter for over 15 years thoo. I know in Mont Co Cir Co there is one judge who handles the complex contract/business matters b/c those types of cases req a greater understanding of the principles, law in that particular specialized area vs your avg bench judge.
The way I heard it is each CBA is basically an extension of the previous ones since 1987, so Judge Doty remains on the matter.
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Just heard on 980AM that the CBA has been extended 7 days. That's got to be a good sign. Sorry, no link yet.
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Just heard on 980AM that the CBA has been extended 7 days. That's got to be a good sign. Sorry, no link yet.
Yes!!!!!!!! Per Adam S. as well
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I think the big blow was the order that the owners CAN'T use TV money for 2 years even without games. That was their silver bullet, telling the NFLPA..."it doesn't matter to us, we're set for 2 years even without games". Their claim of a 2 year "war chest" was shot down.

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About the tv contracts, I found it alil misleading for the owners to say they would have to pay back the 4 bil but left out that they would get to keep 420 mil.

Also, odd was that directv would have to pay 9% more than usual to the nfl if there was a strike and no football.
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ESPN: NFL, Union extend talks for 7 days
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It's a good start. I'm starting to feel that this gets done now and not into the summer as I originally feared. (sent from phone)
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:33 PM   #13
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Things are definitely sounding encouraging

DeMaurice Smith: “We’re not going to let you down” | ProFootballTalk

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Big deal either way. It is like they are just doing this to add to the suspense so people will be ever so thankful that they got a deal done. I saythis because it is inevitable that a deal is going to be hammered out. Neither side can afford a lockout in the long run. The day of reckoning is going to come sooner or later though, as inflation is going to slowly kill of the dollar and raise prices on everything. Salaries and ticket prices need to come down or the NFL is going to price itself out of existence. An eighteen game season isn't going to help that much either.
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Tedy Bruschi was right it seems...well, if there's an agreement by mid-March he'll have been right. He said back in January it would come down to the last day and there would either be a last minute extension or a one-two week lockout
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